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Larry D Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Ventura ca. Joined: Jan 12^th, 2013	32-40 Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 12:07am	Print Post
	I have a browning high wall I would like to re barrel in 32-40. I have heard you can use a 308 bore. Is that possible? Do I use a cast bullet with a gas check when using smokless? Any recommendations? I plan to breach seat. What about reamers?....Larry


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7600 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 32-40 Reply #1 - Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 1:25am	Print Post
	The smallest 32/40 Ballard groove diameters that I know of are .319. 32's at have smaller grooves (.308 - .312) are the 32/30 Rem, 32/40 Rem and 32/35 Stevens/Maynard. The 32/40 Rem isn't the same as the 32/40 Ballard. The Remington case has a larger case head. You can use gas check bullets but, not in ISSA or ASSRA competitions. Most PB bullets for BSing need to be in the 30 to 20/1 hardness range so, they don't deform when being BSed. Use a tapered match type bullet (to fit your twist rate) and a good starting powder is 4227 in the 14.0 to 14.8 gr range. Reamers aren't important if you only shoot BSed but, you need a straight neck and a CBA type throat for fixed cartridges, to group well. Frank

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CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 692 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Re: 32-40 Reply #2 - Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 8:52am	Print Post
	What lead/tin ratio for fixed cartridges? I'm using 1/25 for .32-40 fixed.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7600 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 32-40 Reply #3 - Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 12:28pm	Print Post
	CajunRebel wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 8:52am: What lead/tin ratio for fixed cartridges? I'm using 1/25 for .32-40 fixed. I have shot a bit over 1600 fps with 24/1, BSed with good accuracy so, I don't think you need to go harder than 20/1 if you can get the bullet to go into the barrel straight with fixed. If your wanting to get to 1800 - 2000 fps, you'll need WW with 2 - 5% tin and GC. Frank

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Larry D Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Ventura ca. Joined: Jan 12^th, 2013	Re: 32-40 Reply #4 - Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 10:07pm	Print Post
	With all of the different cases which is the best for accuracy? Is it the best to go with the larger bore and go with original 32-40? No mater which I go with I will have to get a reamer. Is there any preference on who grinds it?. Thanks for all the input......Larry


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12266 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 32-40 Reply #5 - Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 10:57pm	Print Post
	Go with a normal 32-40. Lots of excellent barrels obtainable. Rent a reamer. I've used this outfit before. Excellent. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Joe.

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fallingblock ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 651 Location: Wisconsin Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: 32-40 Reply #6 - Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 11:47pm	Print Post
	The 32-40 Remington uses a .308/.309 bullet. The case looks much like a 32-40 Marlin & Ballard aka 32-40 Winchester but is a bit larger a the base and smaller at the neck. At a short distance very had to tell apart. Cheers, Laurie

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12266 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 32-40 Reply #7 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 1:32pm	Print Post
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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7600 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 32-40 Reply #8 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 1:59pm	Print Post
	Great picture, Joe. It's actually the first 32/40 Rem that I've ever seen. I wonder back at the turn of the century, how many guys bought the wrong cartridge for their rifle and not figured it out until they tried to chamber it. Frank

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: 32-40 Reply #9 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 3:01pm	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 1:59pm: I wonder back at the turn of the century, how many guys bought the wrong cartridge for their rifle and not figured it out until they tried to chamber it. Frank I wonder how many guys discovered it what they opened the new box during an Indian raid?

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 32-40 Reply #10 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	32-40 Rem is considerably older, dating from ~1871. Length is 2.13", base is 0.453", rim is 0.535" and capacity is 47.25gr of water. Make cases from .303 British. 32-40 Win is from 1884. Length is 2.13", base is 0.424", rim is 0.506" and capacity is 45.25gr of water. Can make cases from 375 Win brass. If going with a new barrel then historic data on bore/groove is pretty much unimportant. Go with the nominal 32cal your favorite barrel maker offers and fire-form your brass to match. Am guessing you will have a tough time renting an original 32-40 Rem reamer, while many folks will have the 32-40 Win reamer.
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Larry D Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Ventura ca. Joined: Jan 12^th, 2013	Re: 32-40 Reply #11 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 8:11pm	Print Post
	All kinds of great info.thanks everyone for you input😄 Larry


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12266 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 32-40 Reply #12 - Oct 24^th, 2014 at 8:45am	Print Post
	So Larry, what's your plan? Joe.

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Larry D Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Ventura ca. Joined: Jan 12^th, 2013	Re: 32-40 Reply #13 - Oct 24^th, 2014 at 11:10am	Print Post
	I plan on talking to BRC Rifle Barrels today about a 32 barrel. Check into a reamer. I allways buy my own reamers because I usually make up my own dies. Like some input on any special things I should know about the reamer, tight neck, throat etc. I have been involved with ppc bench rest up until about a year agoe. This is pretty much all new to me. Sort of got the bug!. Thanks for all the help everyone..... . Larry


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1821 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: 32-40 Reply #14 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:04pm	Print Post
	FWIW I have been shooting a 32-40 Rem Hep for several years. 8 twist 300/308 Lilja barrel on a Brg BPCR action. Have custom reamer with tight neck. Used 303Brit cases, fls with C-H dies, fire form, turn necks. Have an excellent load of 15.5 gr IMR4227 under the Lyman 311299, 9+1 WW.Lino, sized to 0.308/MTL lube. Its minute of angle when I do my part. In fact one group of 5 at 200 yds went into 3/4" Am now about to start load testing with 311-247gr NOE bullet which should stabilize well in my 8 twist bbl. beltfed/arnie


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