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Oct 19th, 2014 at 5:45pm
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Sagebrush is offering a 1.45" long, 340gr 35cal bullet that they say needs a 10" twist. My 'calculator' tells me that a 1.45" long 35cal bullet will be fine in a 13" twist. Anyone else getting a 10" twist on this bullet?
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Reply #1 - Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:52pm
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The 358008 (280gr roundnose) won't stabilize in my 1:16 Rem 700.  It will in SOME folks 1:16 (35 Whelen).
Generally for it 1:14 works.
  

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Reply #2 - Oct 20th, 2014 at 2:17pm
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I got one of their moulds and it cast great but I will not get any loads tested till this winter. Steve Baldwin shot one at the nationals and did good considering the conditions. I ask him how it shot on paper and he said he never had a chance to before the match. Both our guns are 10/1 twist and mine has a lot of torque with a 330 grain. They state the BC at .5426 on this 340 gr bullet. LB
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2014 at 4:20pm
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Interesting about the torque. Find the same thing with my 38-56 when shooting heavier (340-370gr bullets). Considerably more torque with the 38-56 then with even heavier bullets (400-420gr) in my 40-65. Am wondering why this might be? The 38-56 has a 14" twist and the 40-65 has a 14.5" twist, so the difference is minor. Can understand the 10" twist creating more torque in comparison. The 38-56 is tossing out those bullets with 1400fps MV while the 40-65 is tossing them out at around 1250fps.

What sort of load have you been using with your 35-40? I'll be shooting BP and will likely be using as much 3F Swiss as I can get in the case. I'm thinking I might get a 300gr bullet as opposed to the 340gr to see if that helps for 200yd or 200m shooting. With 
t (torque) = r (force vector) x F (force) am guessing the F from the high velocity of the 38-56 is enough higher than that of 40-65 to make the difference. Will guess the same is true with the 35cal 340gr bullet.

BTW - If anyone is looking for a nice 35-40 Maynard chambered Hepburn with DSTs, nice wood and a 30" long 10" twist barrel and Baldwin sights, Steve Baldwin has one for sale at a very good price. Too bad I've all ready embarked on my rebuild.
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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 8:10am
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The increase is pretty simple the heavier bullet requires more force to start movement down the barrel. This is felt as increased recoil and increased torque.

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Reply #5 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 1:12pm
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Except that is the opposite of what we have both felt. Theory is great, but reality is better.
  

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Reply #6 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 2:49pm
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Small caliber and mini groove of the 340gr may take a great deal of fouling control.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 5:02pm
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Steve Baldwin has done quite well with his 35-40. I'll be using mine on shorter range courses of fire, but may take it out for a stroll on the BPCR/BPTR course on occasion. Should have everything back together come spring.
  

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Reply #8 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 11:27pm
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Yeah,I shoot a 10 twist 35-40 with a Dan Theodore design 345 grain bullet made by steve Brooks. Shoots real well. I like it a lot, Bill
  
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