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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2214 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Article on lead poisoning Oct 1^st, 2014 at 7:14pm	Print Post
	Since BPCR shooters are routinely exposed to lead when casting, loading and shooting you might be interested in the following article just published in NRA's Shooting Sports USA magazine. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Wayne

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notlwonk Full Member Offline Posts: 168 Location: Coventry CT Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #1 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 8:48pm	Print Post
	Interesting about the sweet taste. When I change the target on my air gun pellet trap there is a 'sweet' taste. I wasn't sure if it was lead or the paint on the steel backer. Guess I'll go back to the duct seal trap.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #2 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 10:07pm	Print Post
	In New Jersey, a blood draw company is required to report anyone with a lead level 12mg or greater to the State Department of Health One year beginning with my annual testing, my level was 12 and I received a detail questioning call from the Dept of Health. Told them it was none of their concern why my level was 12. Since then my number is always 10, far below the OSHA standard of 50


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harry_eales Ex Member	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #3 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 3:38am	Print Post
	Here in Britain we had to install air extractors on every indoor range in the immediate vicinity of backstops and air vents behind the shooting positions. The idea being that there was a continuous flow of air in one end and out the other drawing not only the dust from lead splatter at the backstop, but any fine particles created in firing a lead round. This started when I was in my 20's so some fifty years ago. I know that Buffalo Arms have had 'Warnings' on their website for some years now but other companies are seemingly dragging their feet. To my mind it's one of the more useful things that Health and Safety Legislation has done, usually they are just a pain in the proverbial. Harry


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Fred Boulton Oldtimer Offline Posts: 801 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2007	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #4 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 7:38am	Print Post
	I used to shoot in an indoor league which included several Police Athletic Association teams. We shot on a different range each week. On turning up at one of the police ranges, we missed the usual organiser---we were told that he had to give up shooting for several years at least, after a medical examination had revealed blood in his leadstream. The police range had been fitted with an extraction system which drew out the air through the cubical in which this guy sat, day in, day out, operating the turning targets. We panicked---our home range had no extraction system, just three metal chimneys in the roof. After arranging for extraction fans to be fitted in the chimneys, we arranged for medical tests. We were all clear. This was 35 years ago and I have had periodic blood lead checks ever since. Never had a problem---I cast thousands of bullets every year, using an indoor facility with an extractor fan. Fred


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KAF Ex Member	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #5 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 7:54am	Print Post
	It is the lead oxide that is the problem, the white powdery stuff that forms on the lead. 50x sweeter that sugar. The romans used it in their wine to make it tastier. The lead in gasoline was a problem because it vaporized in the engine then was exhausted and it settled on things, like outdoor water fountains at schools near roadways. Thus many "lead poisoning" cases in children. Lead oxide was using as the base in paints, "whiting" Something else is used now. The whiting in paints tasted good to young, so the many kids in OLD run down houses in the ghetto's showed elevated lead levels. The kids chewed on the window sills etc. Lead levels is normally in the blood, some folks body is able to get rid of the lead so it never gets concentrated enough to be a problem. High lead levels are not a big deal in adults, but has an effect on developing brains. Lead will exit the body on it's own.


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Aonghas Ex Member	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #6 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 8:42am	Print Post
	notlwonk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 8:48pm: Interesting about the sweet taste. When I change the target on my air gun pellet trap there is a 'sweet' taste. I wasn't sure if it was lead or the paint on the steel backer. Guess I'll go back to the duct seal trap. In earlier times (200 years or so and previous) lead acetate was usedfor sweetening wines. There is a claim that this was the cause of King George III's madness. I could go on, from personal experience... Aonghas


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Aonghas Ex Member	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #7 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 8:47am	Print Post
	Quote: /snip/ Lead oxide was using as the base in paints, "whiting" Whiting is powdered chalk. White lead oxide is known as 'white lead', and AFAIK is still used in artists' oil colours. Quote: Something else is used now. The whiting in paints tasted good to young, so the many kids in OLD run down houses in the ghetto's showed elevated lead levels. The kids chewed on the window sills etc. Usually titanium oxide. Aonghas


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7765 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #8 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 11:34am	Print Post
	Quote: Lead will exit the body on it's own. Especially if it doesn't hit a bone Frank

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LONG RANGE Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: CHERRY VALLEY, CA Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #9 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 2:49pm	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 11:34am: Quote: Lead will exit the body on it's own. Especially if it doesn't hit a bone Frank Frank, that was very funny.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7765 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #10 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 4:06pm	Print Post
	I hope I brighten everyones day Frank

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pdshooter Ex Member	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #11 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 7:50pm	Print Post
	Had my blood tested during a routine exam. Tested within normal limits(3 I believe). I have been casting bullets for 60 years with the last ten aided with a kitchen hood and exhaust fan. Shot in an indoor league but not for the last 15 years. Orange juice is supposed to aid in the elimination of lead in your system.


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Online No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3994 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #12 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 9:24pm	Print Post
	Quote: ... Orange juice is supposed to aid in the elimination of lead in your system. A cousin of mine was a neurosurgeon. Spent the majority of his time with those with severe lead poisoning - his comment was vitamin C was the only thing he'd seen that reduced the lead content. That WAS 45 years ago.

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coljimmy Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 283 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2012	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #13 - Oct 8^th, 2014 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	While in training at Parkland Hosp in the '60s, I treated 7 or 8 cases, all were from eating lead and one suicidal moron who ate Lead arsenate. All survived. including one super moron who ate all the no. 8 shot from 5 12 gauge cartridges to cure his acne, didn't work, he was still ugly. Talked to one man who worked for 3 days with a cutting torch on an old railroad bridge with 50 years of lead based paint on it. He claimed that he got sick from it but recovered. NONE were from making bullets. My son had to get a serum lead for the Army the day after casting bullets in a garage, the second time that week, and his lead level was below normal/average. All the kids I saw were eating lead washed off the roof from old lead head roofing nails. Bottom line: The EPA is a scam living off of junk science. and us taxpayers.


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Article on lead poisoning Reply #14 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:37am	Print Post
	I have found most of the histrionics that surround lead to be old wives tales if you follow basic hygiene you are OK. Bottom line, wash your hands before you eat the ham sandwich. The one exception is gallery shooting the gallery must have a good ventilation system as the lead in primers atomizes and is easy to breath in if allowed to build up concentrations.


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