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Reply #15 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 7:35am
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Is it super dry in your location right now? 
It sounds like your making progress. A couple of tenths is less than 2% variance whereas you were at 50%.

One last thing is you might try getting the powder itself at the same potential by pouring it slowly into the measure through a well grounded metal funnel. 
You mentioned that you have the measure grounded to a steel bench. Is the bench grounded to earth ground?
  

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Re: Static Electricity
Reply #16 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 8:55am
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digitall423 wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 7:33am:
I think I would try a different measure. Or completely disassemble the measure for an inspection and thorough cleaning. No sense beating a dead horse.

Bill

I took the measure apart during the match that's when I discovered what the real problem was. Since then it has been disassembled and reassembled 20 to 30 times and probably will get more! I do have a new measure ordered.

Seanmp, I live south of Kansas City so the humidity is never dry except in the winter. I don't know what the humidity was during the match it was probably drier then than it is now right now it's at 84% but usually drops during the day after the sun gets and burns some of that off. The bench is not grounded but is setting on a concrete basement floor. There is a copper water about 30 feet away I'm thinking about running a ground line over to that I would think that it would make for a good ground. 

This measure is very rarely used at my loading bench it is my traveling measure and is mostly used loading at the range. The only time it is ever used at the home was to set up for charge readings. I have two older measures that have dropped many thousands of charges and never encountered a problem. One is a B&M and the other is a Lyman 55 set up to drop black powder. 

I sure do appreciate the time and help that you have given me.

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Reply #17 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 10:29am
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Just a question
Could it be the powder that has the static?
I would like to know...
  
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Re: Static Electricity
Reply #18 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 10:35am
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Ya it's a real son ofa gun.

I know it's a cost thing but I simply can't imagine why a manufacturer would use polycarbonate for the hopper and the drop. I mean my wife buys canisters at the dollar store made from spun aluminum.

I have a coffee grinder that suffers the same issues because the basket is polycarbonate. At least with the measure if a person was inclined it would quite easy to replace the hopper and tube with Alu ....there is no hope for my coffee grinder Grin
  

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Re: Static Electricity
Reply #19 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 10:43am
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4060may wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 10:29am:
Just a question
Could it be the powder that has the static?
I would like to know...

I can't say for sure but this has been occurring over the  last month with two different lots of powder. I'm guessing that the static charge was gradually building until it became a constant issue? 

BUT SUCCESS!!!! For a little while any way at least a small victory! Last night I wrapped a drier sheet around the powder hopper and also around the drop tube and went so far as to place a small piece inside the drop tube. This morning I loaded up the hopper and started weighing charges it dropped very consistently with a very few that were about 1/2 of a grain light weighing on a balance beam scale. 

The horse ain't dead yet!

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Reply #20 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:13pm
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I have been having a lot of shots drop low lately, very low! 10 to 12 inches at 200 yards.
obviously, you are not weighing the powder charges before they are dropped into the cases.  Recommend all or samples because if you did ... you would have determined a reason there is an issue at the range if you buy a digital scale for range use also ... (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

Might want to change chargers ... B&M with brass tube or Lyman #5 (on eBay) ... all metal and both measures drop accurate weights

Interesting also ... I use the Lee Perfect Powder Measure, all plastic, and never had a static issue or abnormal powder weight charges

  
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Reply #21 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 2:38pm
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i use powdered graphite on a paper towel and wipe down the plastic.

fwiw, smokeless has graphite it in for better flow and running a hopper full or two can help, or just paper towel rub in the smokeless.

either way, it totally eliminates static stick and if you run the graphite through a new powder measure it will also "condition" it for much better flow.

i've also used spray can graphite ...
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Re: Static Electricity
Reply #22 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 5:10pm
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For those of you using a Harrel's Precision measure, you can get an aluminum hopper which will help a lot.

Chris.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 9th, 2014 at 5:34pm
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I have had static and powder bridging issues,and try to use small grain powders for best metering, but have had much better consistency using the largest hole in the nozzle ,  for the case mouth of the cartridge being loaded . I havent had to use dryer sheets or de-static . and cant remember the last powder bridging

Phil
  
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