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Irascible Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 279 Location: Pleasant Valley Joined: Apr 6^th, 2007	Ivory in the lube Jun 7^th, 2014 at 9:23pm	Print Post
	Exactly what does the Ivory Soap do to/for the lube?


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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1185 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #1 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 12:27am	Print Post
	Soaps are a good way to raise the melting point of the lube, if you feel you want to do that. My favorite schuetzen lube (one of the DELL recipes, q.v.) has a good dose of lithium stearate in it. For BP, the soap tends to make things a little gummy. CHRIS RGChristensen


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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4227 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #2 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 1:34am	Print Post
	Ivory soap is the emulsifier that allows you to mix/blend oil base or wax ingredients with water base ingredients.


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #3 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 8:46am	Print Post
	An easier way to raise the lelt point of beeswax lubes is to add small amounts of castor wax. The lube I am using now I wanted something like SPG but with a higher melt point. What I have now works like it but with a melt point of 220. 40 Rod


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #4 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	As I recall from the lube discussions on the old "shooterstalk.com" website. Ivory FLAKES were vastly preferred for lube blending over melted bath bars or the liquid. I don't remember why but there was expert professional soap chemist who added a lot of valuable comment and as I recall it came from him

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singleshot Senior Forum Member Offline I love singleshots! Posts: 343 Location: Fort Mill, SC Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #5 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:13pm	Print Post
	The Ivory soap flakes or beads were simply PURE soap with no other emulsifiers, diluents, or additives. Charlie Dell found that the "99.9% pure" soap bars would work if shaved or pulverized, but did have a much higher moisture content than the beads, making it much more work to get it into solution. NONE of the liquid "soaps" are true soap- they are detergents.

	Willis Gregory, aka singleshot
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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1185 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #6 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:21pm	Print Post
	NONE of the liquid "soaps" are true soap- they are detergents. [/quote] Not strictly true. Most potassium soaps are liquids. It IS true that the "liquid soaps" on the market are not really soaps. CHRIS RGChristensen


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singleshot Senior Forum Member Offline I love singleshots! Posts: 343 Location: Fort Mill, SC Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #7 - Jun 8^th, 2014 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	Thanks Chris! I knew they were not suitable substitutes.

	Willis Gregory, aka singleshot
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #8 - Jun 9^th, 2014 at 12:27am	Print Post
	It is all well defined in Charlies Book and well worth the money spent. Singleshot is the only one I know of who can provide you with the correct information on Charlies behalf outside of buying the book. He is also the only one who can provide with Charlies Lube formulas in an un altered state as was provided directly from Charlie.

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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4160 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Ivory in the lube Reply #9 - Jun 14^th, 2014 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	If you want to know about soap in lube, look up the word "saponification." This is the process by which non-polar and poor molecules can be joined in a more or less homogeneous mixture. (Yep, Charlie talked to me a bunch too! ) Froggie


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