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D&T Browning/Miroku Low Wall receiver
Apr 6th, 2014 at 9:30am
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Yep, I know it's blasphemy but I have no choice. I just got a "new to me" Browning Low Wall in absolutely mint condition. It's a 357mag reamed to 357max. I've been wanting one of these for years and finally got one. I was always under the impression that all low walls were drilled and tapped for scope mounts. In fact, the booklet that came with the gun says they are all drilled and tapped. Guess the book is wrong, this one isn't. I'd leave it alone but the problem is my eyes just can't see iron sights anymore. Not under any conditions. Old age just caught up to me. I've got to scope it if I want to use it. I'd like to know if anyone on here has a low wall with an octagon barrel that is drilled and tapped. My new gun has half octagon and half round. I want to mount Leupold bases on the gun and need to know if anyone has one already drilled and tapped from the factory, what the diameter of the barrel is 4" in front of the receiver. That would tell me if the mount they are using would fit on my gun. My barrel is .822" at that point. If the full octagon and the half octagon are the same dimension at that point (that's where the base would go) I think I can D&T it and use the same bases they use on the regular low walls (mine's the Traditional Hunter model). I'd appreciate any help or guidance here.
  
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Re: D&T Browning/Miroku Low Wall receiver
Reply #1 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 3:15pm
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I thought all of these were D&T as well. Has to be rare one; better not mess with it!

These all came with Marbles tang sights as far as I know. Even poor eyes can do pretty well with the right tang sight aperture and front sight. Maybe try that first?
  
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Re: D&T Browning/Miroku Low Wall receiver
Reply #2 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 3:23pm
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nsb,

  I have one in the shop right now that is D&T for scope mounts. I will measure the locations and spacing and PM them to you.

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Reply #3 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 3:35pm
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singleshotsam wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 3:23pm:
nsb,

  I have one in the shop right now that is D&T for scope mounts. I will measure the locations and spacing and PM them to you.

SSS

singleshotsam, thanks. If the front base will fit the receiver base shouldn't be a problem. The receiver is the same on all low wall modelssbut the barrel dimension at that point might be different. Not scoping it just isn't an option at this point.
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 5:28pm
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If you want to get out to 200yds you might need to add .030 to the rear of the base not including any existing barrel taper or you might run out of scope elevation.

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Reply #5 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 6:57pm
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JLouis wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 5:28pm:
If you want to get out to 200yds you might need to add .030 to the rear of the base not including any existing barrel taper or you might run out of scope elevation.

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That's good to know. I'd just assumed I'd get 200yds but now you have me thinking I might not. I'll keep this in mind...thanks for the tip.
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:09pm
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You are very welcome, I did not want you to spend any time or money if it did not get you to where you might want to go.

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Re: D&T Browning/Miroku Low Wall receiver
Reply #7 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:29pm
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Browning and Leupold make 2 pice bases for these,  made to fit the contur of barrel and reciever..  I have used these...   Contact texmac on this forum..
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:53pm
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colo native wrote on Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:29pm:
Browning and Leupold make 2 pice bases for these,  made to fit the contur of barrel and reciever..  I have used these...   Contact texmac on this forum..

Leupold's web site says "not for the Traditional Hunter" model. That's the one I have. They may fit, and then again they may not. The other low walls have either a full octagon barrel or a full round barrel. Mine has half and half and I don't know if the octagon portion is the same size as the other ones. If I get feedback that they are the same size where I want to drill and tap for the base, I'll feel confident in doing so. If I get feedback that there is a difference in size in this area, I'll have to figure out something else. As a former carpenter, I go by the motto "measure twice, cut once".
  
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Re: D&T Browning/Miroku Low Wall receiver
Reply #9 - Apr 7th, 2014 at 5:37pm
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nsb,

  The location and spacing on a new Winchester/Miroku low wall are dimensioned as follows.

Rear mount, on the receiver ring .500 c/c centered on the length of the receiver ring.

Front mount, on the barrel 2.750 center-line from the front of the receiver ring. Spaced .250 forward and behind this dimension. The barrel across the flats at this point is .820. I am not sure as to what bases Winchester recommends but the .500 c/c spacing on both front and rear locations should be fairly standard.

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Re: D&T Browning/Miroku Low Wall receiver
Reply #10 - Apr 7th, 2014 at 7:08pm
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SSS,
I really appreciate you taking the time to measure this for me. It pretty much tells me that if I can find a mount for either the Winchester or any Browning Low Wall, it will fit. I was afraid that having the half/half barrel that it wouldn't fit. Thanks again.
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Re: D&T Browning/Miroku Low Wall receiver
Reply #11 - Oct 23rd, 2021 at 11:55pm
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I found this thread because I also have a Low Wall Traditional Hunter in .44 Mag and want to scope it for exactly the same reason... my eyes ain't what they used to be.

Wondering why the factory has the mount attached to both the barrel and receiver, and if one would be better off just drilling and tapping the barrel. I'm thinking of ginning up a Pickatinny rail... I know, not traditional, but that way I could easily go red dot or low powered scope, with the tang sight for a backup. Or, use the rear sight dovetail by making up a dovetail with a threaded hole, like a forend hanger on an old 1885, along with a couple of set screws, to really hang on to the recoil of a .44 Magnum.

I assume that if you duplicated the factory holes you could use one of the Talley mounts that works with the new Low Wall Hunter rimfires... right?
  
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