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Jan 11th, 2014 at 9:53pm
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Hello, everyone.  While snowed in, I spent my time drooling over the original Sharps Borchardt Mid & Long Range match rifles pictured in Sellers book.  And in back of mind figuring how long I would need to scrimp...or hit the Mega Ball in order to afford one of these beauties!  Which got me thinking..at $100.00 to $125.00 1878 dollars...what would that be in todays devalued paper?
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 11th, 2014 at 10:28pm
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Tough call but the attached may give some answers
  
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Some five years ago or so a magnificent Borchards 1878 LR Target Rifle sold at Amoskeag? (sp) for US$ 50.000.00. At the time it was said by the auctioneer that it was perhaps the finest Borchardt in existence. Less than two years ago another Borchardt LR sold for US$ 78,000.00. I haven't seen a picture of this latter rifle, but it certainly must be something to look at. 

Over 50 years ago when I first started shooting, an original Colt Walker in magnificent condition (for its age) could be had for US$ 20.000.00, today you would have to pay 1.5 million US Greenbacks for the same pistol, or perhaps more. 

I have always been hampered in the purchase of firearms by being born with a wooden spoon in my mouth instead of a silver one.  Cry


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Reply #3 - Jan 12th, 2014 at 3:08am
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I once had a book on gold mining. In that book it gave the price of gold from 1849 until 1948. While reading it in1989, I came up with the thought of using gold as a inflation standard. It worked fairly well until the 90's when no one seemed to want gold enough to compete to buy it, so it didn't go up for quite a while. It has over come that problem now.

Here is how I would value it, gold in 1878 was $20 per oz. For $100 that is 5 oz. The current price is $1247(I just checked), five times that is  $6235.

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Reply #4 - Jan 12th, 2014 at 3:59am
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With the historical low interest rates, I wonder if many antique guns are being bought as investments. The price of antique firearms have skyrocketed since 2008. I paid $300 for a thick side Hiwall in 84, wonder what it would bring now.
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Reply #5 - Jan 12th, 2014 at 7:20am
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Here is an interesting web site. You can check the value of all the silver coins you have horded.

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Reply #6 - Jan 12th, 2014 at 8:57pm
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dealing with historical research I often use the 
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calculator cited above.  however it is still a tough call since so many factors are involved.   there is another formula system (I can't find my notes on this 'puter to cite it) that bases the calculation on the relative values of a bluecollar workers labor to acquire various commodities--- I.e. the number of hours required to purchase a loaf of bread, a pair of shoes etc.   However commodity prices are extremely subjective to supply demand cycles and transportation costs.

How many hours worth of wages would one of the Sharps semi-skilled factory workers have to spend to buy that 125$ rifle?   How many hours worth of wages for a modern semi-skilled worker to purchase a modern factory made rifle with similar functional values---not a custom made replica or an import knock-off--or an original.


Amazingly most of the difference between prices then and now is inflation, and while wages seldom keep up they do rise in the long haul.  (current situation probably being an aberration that will be corrected in the long haul) Because of technological advances in ALL areas of raw material extraction and processing and MFG production as well as better faster more efficient transportation, many goods and services are LESS expensive now than then once inflation is factored out.
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Reply #7 - Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:09pm
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Ran across an article that said in 1878, underground miners at the Alice and Lexington silver mines around Butte, Montana were receiving $3.50 per working day.

Using that figure, it would take one of those silver miners somewhere between 28 - 36 working days to purchase that $100 - $125 rifle, provided you didn't purchase any of the basic necessities like food, etc.

And they didn't have income taxes, social security, etc deducted from their pay back then.

  

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BP wrote on Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:09pm:
Ran across an article that said in 1878, underground miners at the Alice and Lexington silver mines around Butte, Montana were receiving $3.50 per working day.

Using that figure, it would take one of those silver miners somewhere between 28 - 36 working days to purchase that $100 - $125 rifle, provided you didn't purchase any of the basic necessities like food, etc.

And they didn't have income taxes, social security, etc deducted from their pay back then.



Using my scale for a $100 rifle, at a $20 per (modern day) hour, it would be 39, eight hr days. I'm sure those miners where working 12 hr days though.

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Reply #9 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 3:14am
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Frank,

You may be right.
Grant signed a National Eight Hour Law Proclamation almost a decade earlier on May 19, 1869.
Congress had passed an 8 hour law for federal workers (imagine that!) about a year prior to Grant's proclamation. 
Enforcement of the work hour laws was probably pursued about as stringently as the enforcement of many of our present day federal laws. 

  

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Reply #10 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 11:48am
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if my calculations are correct 
20 an hour X 8 hours = 160 a day
160 x 39 days= $6240
160 x 60 days or at least 2 months=$9600
I don't think(my opinion fwiw) for 39 days you can't find an origonal Sharps Borchardt Long Range for that kind of money today. More like 2 months is what I see.
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Reply #11 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 1:08pm
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BP,
The reason that I said 12 hr days is because back in the mid to late 20's, my dad worked six, 12 hr shifts per week. I don't remember the daily wage but, it wasn't more than $2.50 per day as a cook, in a larger. resturaunt. No OT for sure!

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In 1952 we moved to Texas and my dad went to work for Dow Chemical for 1.60 an hour, he had been making 11.00 a week. We thought we were rich. Two years later he bought a new Plymouth for 1200.00 cash. We moved into a duplex rental with a slab, indoor bathroom and a tv. Never had any of that before. I was in the 5th grade. We were not rich but a lot better off than most of our relatives had ever been. I owned a Remington single shot and now I have as many as I want, we are much better off and enjoying it.
  

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My pop worked during the depression making about $15/week. He worked at a silk mill during the week and a grocery store on Saturdays.
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:47pm
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Too bad that Al Story was/is such a lousy business person. If he wasn't, you would be able to purchase a new reproduction Borchardt for around $4-5K, depending on the wood, extras, etc. Al lost his FFL (after years of repeated warnings by the Feds) and can no longer make them.
  

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