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Reply #15 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 8:32pm
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Down loaded .22 Hornet?
  
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Reply #16 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 8:39pm
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Reply #17 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:02pm
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Is it time to resurrect the .22 Maynard EXL CF?
Can load it from 22BB up to 22 Mag equivalent.
Glad now that I grabbed just enough Cooper 22CCM brass to keep me going.
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:54pm
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Same case capacity as the .22 rimfire case using a small pistol primer?  Heeled bullets only?   

Would be a cute little bugger. Does it already exist?

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Reply #19 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 10:16pm
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Maybe it is time to come up with a modernized version of the .22 Maynard EXL.   

My version would be a very heavy straight everlasting case, rimmed of course, using a Small Pistol primer, with a narrow & straight powder space and a recess in the mouth so that swaged 22 bullets (with or without the heel) could be seated by hand.  The cartridge would use existing 22 rimfire barrels. Easy breech seating would also be a requirement.  Reloading would only require a re-de.
  
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Reply #20 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 10:40pm
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A .25 cal muzzleloader and forget the brass. Mine has a 44" swamped Rayl and a small Siler flintlock. Shoots #4 buck one at a time. Best accuracy with mine is with 18 gr of 3f. Think a really hot .22 short. Doesn't even need caps. Really cheap shooting.
  
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Reply #21 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 11:18pm
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Things are becoming a bit easier to find, although it's too early for any decent prices, but unfortunately that's supply and demand.  Undecided
  
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Reply #22 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 11:21pm
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Same case capacity as the .22 rimfire case using a small pistol primer?  Heeled bullets only?   

Would be a cute little bugger. Does it already exist?

   Joe. 

The case does use a small primer, pistol primers are what I use.
And no heeled bullet required. Original groove size was 0.228 and the standard bullet was the Ideal 228151.
Story was Cooper got the brass from Fiocchi (supposedly Velodog stuff with Cooper's headstamp put on it) and Cooper then used the 0.224 groove, so you can use any of the old standard 22 moulds like the 225438, 225415 etc, and if you have the inclination, the lighter weight 22 jacketed varmit bullets work too
  
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Reply #23 - Jan 10th, 2014 at 12:05am
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Powder and lead last a looooong time.
  
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Re: Possible .22 shortage help
Reply #24 - Jan 11th, 2014 at 9:10am
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BP,

I like it. I was thinking about putting a .22WCF or a .25WCF barrel on my Mod49.

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Reply #25 - Jan 11th, 2014 at 9:39pm
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Bob,

Your approach makes a lot more sense these days.
Cooper dropped their CCM brass some time ago, and trying to get the Fiocchi Velodog brass from Europe may be a no-go.
Buffalo Arms is accepting backorder's on 22 Maynard EXL CF brass but at ~$3 a pop, Hornet brass for either the 22 or 25cal is a lot more attractive and practical at 1/10th the cost per case.
There was a fellow in CA some time back who formed 22 Maynard cases from Hornet brass, but he had to perform a lot of steps and the price reflected it.
Once in a rare while 22 CCM brass shows up. It is all headstamped 17 CCM... the 22 brass just hadn't had the bottleneck formed yet to convert it into the reloadable 17 CCM case that was introduced to the market about 10 years prior to the introduction of the rimfire 17 HMR.
Now you got me thinking again about a centerfire version of the 25 Stevens.     Wink
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Re: Possible .22 shortage help
Reply #26 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:02am
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I’ll make an offer to my NY Friends right now. Order your bricks of .22 ammunition and have shipped to me. I’ll hold it and deliver it to you at Etna green at the spring Match.

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Re: Possible .22 shortage help
Reply #27 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 4:53pm
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I'm happy to say that I went by my local sporting goods store / gun shop and they've got lots of powder primers and 22 RF ammo. The only problem is the price $$!  Tongue
  
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Re: Possible .22 shortage help
Reply #28 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:41pm
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Schutzenbob wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 4:53pm:
I'm happy to say that I went by my local sporting goods store / gun shop and they've got lots of powder primers and 22 RF ammo. The only problem is the price $$!  Tongue


Unfortunately we in NY feel your pain. All the local suppliers I've seen raised their prices dramatically. 

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Re: Possible .22 shortage help
Reply #29 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 7:04pm
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Am sure the increase in prices has started at bottom (top?) with the mfgrs. Unfortunately, an awful lot of what we buy goes through a middle-man before hitting the shelves, adding another level of cost.
  
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