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broken_arrow Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Lancaster County Joined: Aug 12^th, 2008	Trail Boss? Dec 30^th, 2013 at 7:58am	Print Post
	Hi all, Does anyone have any first-hand experience with Trail boss powder? I was thinking of using it in some small capacity cases for plinking loads. But, I have heard that it may give high pressure spikes. Can anyone shed some light on this stuff? Thanks, Dave

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #1 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 8:49am	Print Post
	broken_arrow wrote on Dec 30^th, 2013 at 7:58am: But, I have heard that it may give high pressure spikes. Dave Not if you stick strictly to the recommended loads for whatever you're shooting, as you would (or should) with Bullseye. I shot a good bit in a 44-40, but got better accuracy with heavier loads of other powders.


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #2 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 8:58am	Print Post
	have you simply 'googled" it, might lead you to discussions on some of the other on-line shooting Forums. I tried to see if there was an on-line archive of Handloader Magazine to see. I think I've seen a tech review of it there. But WolfePub is a subscription-only site--(why am I not surprised) -or buy the back issue CD---which may or may not be topic/subject searchable

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1633 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #3 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am	Print Post
	The only experience I have using trail boss is for subsonic loads for my .308 Win bolt rifle. 10gr with a 175SMK will shoot moa at 100yds from my rifle. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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colo native Oldtimer Offline Posts: 760 Location: Barren Ridge, Va Joined: Dec 27^th, 2007	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #4 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 9:55am	Print Post
	I have tried it, went running back to Uniq n Bulseye... poured 2 or 3 cans in the garden.


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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 646 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #5 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 10:37am	Print Post
	I'm with Colo-native, tried it and still have 1/2 can left. After looking over the pressure data it seemed to be more of "developed for marketing" product that only seems to have an advantage in very small cases and light loads (for those who worry about double charging). Why not just use titegroup and cautious reloading?


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #6 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 11:10am	Print Post
	colo native wrote on Dec 30^th, 2013 at 9:55am: I have tried it, went running back to Uniq n Bulseye... poured 2 or 3 cans in the garden. Ditto. But I'm waiting for spring before I pour any on the cabbage patch.

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Ray_Newman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 274 Location: Washington State Joined: Jul 13^th, 2004	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #7 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 11:33am	Print Post
	I load Trail Boss in .45 Colt with a 250 gr flat nose copper plated lead bullet from Berry Bullets. Works very well. Prefer Trail Boss in the .45 Colt as I once came close to double charging. With Trail Boss, the powder will overflow the .45 Colt case if it is double charged. 'Nevva' loaded Trail Boss in other calibres.

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2272 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #8 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 1:08pm	Print Post
	I have used in a couple of my .45-70's. It shot ok at 100m, but vertical dispersion was rediculous at 200m. It's an excellent powder for shooting close range at tin cans Chris.


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ssdave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1796 Location: Eastern Oregon Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #9 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	I have some pressure test data for Trail Boss in .45-70 somewhere. It had absurd pressures, high 30,000's for velocities in the 1000 fps range. Made me not interested in using it for any straight wall case. If I did use it, I'd use it in strict conformance with good published test data INCLUDING pressures. The inconsistencies and high pressures I've heard of make me very wary of experimenting with it. dave


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colo native Oldtimer Offline Posts: 760 Location: Barren Ridge, Va Joined: Dec 27^th, 2007	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #10 - Dec 30^th, 2013 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	DONT put it on the cabbage plants, It'l give ya aw lota gass, eh...


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RoyB Oldtimer Offline Posts: 838 Location: Dartmouth, MA Joined: Mar 28^th, 2011	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #11 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 6:47am	Print Post
	I shoot Cowboy Action competition. I use TB in all my "cowboy" guns....38-40, 44-40, 45Colt and Cowboy45 Special. Fantastic powder for these 850fps +/- loads using cast bullets. I tried it in my 45-70, 38-55 and 32 Special with very poor accuracy under cast bullets. Unique just can't be beat for mild accurate loads in these cases

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broken_arrow Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Lancaster County Joined: Aug 12^th, 2008	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #12 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Thanks for the responses. Here's what I'm loading for, maybe it will help you help me.... .46RF Long (made from shortened 303 British) .25-10 Halsted (made from .22 Hornet, basically a .25 Hornet) .32 Long (made from .32 S&W Long) .38-1.75 (made from 30-30 Winchester) All are cast action Ballards. Unique works and good ole black works, but I keep hearing about how good TrailBoss is. Maybe I need to stop listening to stories . Thanks again, Dave

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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 685 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #13 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	I've used it in various applications with no problems. If you go to Hodgdon's website you will find specific info and data. You know, "straight from the horse's mouth".


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colo native Oldtimer Offline Posts: 760 Location: Barren Ridge, Va Joined: Dec 27^th, 2007	Re: Trail Boss? Reply #14 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	If you decide to try TB. Don't use in a cast steel action of old... To much at stake....


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