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Lubing stop ring bullet
Dec 1st, 2013 at 11:48am
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Just cast the first batch with my new mould.
Now I wonder what is the best way to lube.
Pan lube to the bottom of stop ring?
Pan lube to the top of the front lube grove?
Make a lube die countersunk so lube enters bottom 2 groves?
Or tumble in Lee lube?
Or what?

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Re: Lubing stop ring bullet
Reply #1 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 12:29pm
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I panlube to the stopring.

With smokeless you dont really need the front lubegroove filled.

I normally push the bullets out of the grease from the front but with the stopring it creates a lube mess and a lot of whiping. Pushed out from the rear they have nothing more than lubed grooves and needs very little wiping.
  
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Re: Lubing stop ring bullet
Reply #2 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 2:07pm
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Lee Liquid Alox works good for me. Use a small plastic container like an empty margarine tub, cut it down to about 1 inch high, put a little alox on each bullet, shake in a circular motion until they are well coated, lay out a piece of wax paper, stand the bullets on their bases & let cure overnight.   
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Reply #3 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 2:14pm
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I use Mikes method for half a dozen calibres, despite having a lubrisizer and dies for many of them. Ten years ago, I conducted a series of bench rest tests----unsized bullets , tumbled in liquid alox, beat the lubrised samples every time.
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Re: Lubing stop ring bullet
Reply #4 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 2:25pm
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I have panlubed them  works fine and I think the liquid alox and tumble lube would work well too.   In fact I had Tom at Accurate Make me a custom tapered breech-seat bullet double cavity mold with one bullet with traditional grease grooves and the other with multiple small grooves especially for tumble lube so that I can compare the two methods. 
  I know that the CBA guys seem to be pretty high on tumble lubing--experimenting with all sorts of mixtures and technique
  

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Re: Lubing stop ring bullet
Reply #5 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 2:26pm
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Since we don't need to size stop ring bullets, an aluminum "sizer" die is easy to turn to fit a Lyman or RCBS lubrisizer. Four holes drilled from the groove on the die to up near the die mouth will transport lube to the grooves on the bullet shank, and reverse the bullet to get the groove on the nose. The stop ring will position the bullet in the die - don't apply pressure when seating the bullet. The same sort of process can be used with a brass or aluminum die fitted to a particular tapered bullet. Drill lots of lube holes adjacent to the bullet grooves and back off the lube pressure before pushing the bullet out. Done correctly, the grooves are filled consistently and it doesn't take a lot longer to do than the usual sizing process. You can even make a die set for your Martini Cadet to fill the single groove in the nose.
  
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Re: Lubing stop ring bullet
Reply #6 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 3:15pm
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I pan lube stop ring bullets. All grooves are filled. The stop ring bullet I use is same diameter above and below, so, needs lube in all the grooves. 

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