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Reply #15 - Oct 29th, 2013 at 6:54pm
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Lets see if I attach the pictures. 

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Reply #16 - Oct 29th, 2013 at 6:57pm
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All I did was make a flat block/plate. Milled the slot with angles so the sight would fit the dovetail. Then I drilled and tapped it for the sights mounting screw. Then I located and put the two mounting holes on the block for the mounting screws into the receiver. If memory serves me right when I started to make this first one I took to much off of the width and the sight wasn't going to be in the center of the receiver and would throw my windage way off. So had to start over but this should give you the idea. 

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Reply #17 - Oct 29th, 2013 at 8:36pm
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All I did was make a flat block/plate. Milled the slot with angles so the sight would fit the dovetail. Then I drilled and tapped it for the sights mounting screw. Then I located and put the two mounting holes on the block for the mounting screws into the receiver. If memory serves me right when I started to make this first one I took to much off of the width and the sight wasn't going to be in the center of the receiver and would throw my windage way off. So had to start over but this should give you the idea. 

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Many thanks!
That gives me a very good idea of what to aim for (no pun intended...).

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Reply #18 - Oct 29th, 2013 at 8:40pm
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boats wrote on Oct 29th, 2013 at 12:46pm:

You ought to call Steve Earle he makes all sorts of adaptors, No good reason your Anschutz sight can't hang on the Martini action. Steve has some adaptors that hang the sight off Unertl barrel scope blocks that could work.

Boats


You know, I don't know why I didn't think of Steve Earl myself! 

I was a lot slower learning that good sights are pretty much the top priority... I did evolve to that thinking EVENTUALLY.. it just cost me more time and money than it should have if I was a brighter sort of guy.   Cheesy

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Reply #19 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 9:15am
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No good reason your Anschutz sight can't hang on the Martini action. Steve has some adaptors that hang the sight off Unertl barrel scope blocks that could work.  Boats


For a photo of the set-up being discussed, i.e., the use of Anschutz rear sight with a Martini action rifle, with the sight mounted on the rear scope block (Lyman/Unertl) and cantilevered out over the top of the breech block, see the following.  The eye relief is adjustable as much as three inches as a result of the two dove tailed piece telescoping, one on top of the other.

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Reply #20 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 9:20am
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  Yes, you are correct, the rifle shown is a Ruger No.1 falling block.  However, I transfer the shown rear sight from the Ruger No.1 directly to the rear scope block of my B.S.A. Martini International and make the necessary eye relief adjustment.

The scope block mounted cantilever adapter piece is available from CPA Rifles at a cost of approximately $100 (price in 2010).

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LOOK at the "Rear Sight Adapter for Anschutz"

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Reply #21 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 2:20pm
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Very slick!
That just became my leading candidate of a plan for the rear sight!

Thank you for posting the picture.
  
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Reply #22 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:20pm
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   Hi Paul,
               Glad to contribute .  .  .

Photo No. BSA_016 shows the Anschutz rear peep  sight positioned almost all the way to the rear of the lower dove tail piece which CPA furnishes.  As I mentioned above, there is a good 2 1/2" to 3" of front to back adjustment for whatever eye relief works best for most any shooter.
 
I also use the CPA Adapter/Anschutz Peep arrangement with my CPA/Stevens 44 1/2 Rifle for "Iron Sight" classes.

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Reply #23 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:32pm
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Very slick!  That just became my leading candidate of a plan for the rear sight!


  Paul,   would it be appropriate at this point to say "  Eureka  " 

Sorry, I couldn't resist that follow up after seeing your hometown signature.

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Re: Building a Smallbore Prone gun on a Martini MkIII?
Reply #24 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 6:37am
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Col Native on this forum hangs his Warner sight on two CPA's Rim and Center Fire with that CPA adaptor.  He says the sight settings repeat perfect when switching

I think Steve Earl makes it for CPA

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Reply #25 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:00am
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I think Steve Earl makes it for CPA
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Bill,  I always thought so, but out of respect, never asked either Steve or Gail.

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Reply #26 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:06am
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Neal Rice has made this adapter for several years for Redfield, Warner, etc.  If you have scope blocks, they work well.
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Reply #27 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:15am
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Neal Rice has made this adapter for several years for Redfield, Warner, etc.  If you have scope blocks, they work well.
Kurt


Kurt -- Doesn't Brownell's retail that adapter base ?  Maybe something similar, if not Rice's work product.

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Reply #28 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:28am
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Kurt's idea is better. Proven product that allows access to the breech for loading.


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Re: Building a Smallbore Prone gun on a Martini MkIII?
Reply #29 - Oct 31st, 2013 at 9:40am
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I maybe wrong but I thought the Martini III was more of a prone rifle to start. Long and low check. I put a 5/8 rod on  my stock to use a anschutz hook butt plate, but stock had to be shortened for position shooting (or just offhand for me). JMO
  
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