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Sep 26th, 2013 at 12:41pm
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Hi guys. Does anyone know what rod would be good for color match when tig welding pits on a stevens?.....Larry Smiley
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:24pm
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I don't know which Stevens you want to weld, but all of them that I have dealt with were cast and I doubt that you will find a good match in a tig rod; also, all my attempts at welding the receivers and levers have failed miserably. Let us know how you come out. Good luck!

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Re: Tig welding rod
Reply #2 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:39am
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Brownells sells a rod for use on firearms that they claim will blue and match. I've used it with oxy-acetylene and it has worked well.

Peter Nagle, who advertises museum quality welding in all the single shot magizines does beautiful work. He repaired a broken tang on a Stevens side plate for me. At the time he didn't have FFL license so could not receive a receiver made after 1898.
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Reply #3 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 10:14am
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Something about welding cast with a tig torch, it may develop hard spots that can not be taken away with annealing. I have used cast iron rod ( Ox/Acc) on Stevens with good results.
  

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Re: Tig welding rod
Reply #4 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 10:29am
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(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links); Assuming its a 44 Stevens action.  

44 1/2, cast?  I think not.  When repairing rust pits, I use a copper plate with a counter sunk hole. Submerged arc. (stick). 

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Reply #5 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 11:00pm
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Thanks for the input. I have been tig welding for the last  40 years in the marine field. Cast iron has always been a challenge. Never know what alloy you have. I have used  the Ni rod for cast iron, works sometimes , sometimes  not.  Have used inconell 82 wire, silicone bronze wire, even silfos 15 and 45. Problem is in this case got to have color match for  bluing. Think I will look at Bownells at wire  that is made or gun repair. Would like to use tig because of the control of the puddle. Sort of afraid of the gas weld because of potential warpage. Does anyon know wha alloy the 44 is? Smiley....again,   
Thanks for the input.... Larry.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 1:02am
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One other thing you might consider........ I raced for a long time and taked to a guy that welded cracked high end ported cast iron cylinder heads. This was his method that stood up to that kind of high stress.

He would make a oven over his forge with fire brick. Heat the heads to red hot, open a area where the crack was and weld it with oxy/Acc torch, using cast iron rod. When done, he'd turn the forge off, cover the head in the oven and let it aneal. 

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Reply #7 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 11:22am
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I've used plain MIG wire for TIG on a low wall action. Probably ER70S6. Blues just fine. If the action is cast I suspect you are out of luck but then I'm no expert. If the action is just 'plain' steel then either the TIG or the laser technique shown on the forum a while back should do fine. 
If it is really cast then maybe the only workable approach is to surface grind to try to get under the pitting. Certainly not the best approach to trying to restore something that was mistreated. 

Maybe you want to try a test weld on the underside of the tang. 

I wish you luck.
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 12:39pm
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Thanks guys. I have done the oven welding before. I anealed it under diotomatious (sp) until it cooled. Mixed results. Polishing out is probably the best way. I am just to anal at times with my stuff. Just like to make it as good as new or better. Most small rest spotsb will polish out with out any problem. Just bothers me to remove metal from sides of a reciever......thanks .... Larry
  
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