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Maynard 1st. Model Question
Sep 24th, 2013 at 6:18am
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I recently read that a brass frame First Model Maynard carbine was (were) produced, assumedly by Mass Arms Co.  Looking for supporting evidence that there is truth to the assertion, albeit a brief one line sentence in an other wise informed write-up RE: the early Maynard firearms.

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Re: Maynard 1st. Model Question
Reply #1 - Sep 24th, 2013 at 9:52pm
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I have never seen any reference to any brass framed Maynards either 1st or 2nd Mods. The first prototype Maynard was made at Springfield Armory in 1853 and it was iron. It is in the Smithsonian Museum but not on display.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:45am
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Hi John --

   I came across a second mentioned brass frame Maynard this morning at;

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under the Maynard heading, which reads;

"The Maynard orientated Perry Brass Frame Carbines were manufactured by the Confederacy at Keen, Walker & Company , Danville, Virginia. "

Apparently, these brass frame carbines were not true, 100 % Maynard styles, but I will seek out further clarification.

Under that same web address, I searched Keen, Walker and Co. and the information for that gun maker informs that several hundred brass frame Maynards were produced.
 
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Re: Maynard 1st. Model Question
Reply #3 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:52pm
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Dr. Murphy in his excellent book "Confederate Carbines & Musketoons" has this to say about the Keen, Walker & Co. brass framed carbine.  "Superficially, the Keen, Walker & Co. carbine resembles the Maynard inasmuch as the breechblock is actuated by a toggle lever of the same general design as the Maynard carbine lever. However, in the Maynard carbine, the toggle lever moves the pivoted barrel and not the breechblock. A further resemblance lies in the very thin stock and the absence of a fore stock. There is also some resemblance to the pre-war Perry carbine in the manner the breechblock is pivioted in the frame."

A Keen, Walker carbine is not a Maynard, is not a copy of a Maynard and should not be confused with a Maynard. It only resembles one from across a spacious room.
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:28pm
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Keen and Walker..................

"It only resembles one from across a spacious room." 

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Reply #5 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:03pm
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A Keen, Walker carbine is not a Maynard, is not a copy of a Maynard and should not be confused with a Maynard. It only resembles one from across a spacious room.


That was well said, John.  I like your phraseology. I'd like to use those words if the opportunity ever presents itself, if you would have no objection.   Smiley

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Reply #6 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:06pm
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   Will-
         The under finger levers look to be about the same, but that is where the similarities end.

  Thanks for the photo.

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Reply #7 - Sep 26th, 2013 at 9:02pm
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Webb, you have my permission to quote me should the need arise.
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 15th, 2013 at 9:08pm
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Larry Romano is making really nice Keen & Walker repros.  Pricey, but very nicely done.
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Reply #9 - Oct 25th, 2013 at 5:56am
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Larry Romano is making really nice Keen & Walker repros.  Pricey, but very nicely done.


Mr. Romano is a highly skilled, talented and knowledgeable craftsman and his craft is gunsmithing at a very high level.  Accordingly, he is entitled to be financially compensated for what he produces and brings to the market place.

I had the pleasure of being in Mr. Romano's  Winchester (Va)  shop recently for conversation and show and tell, and without any doubt in this writers opinion, his Keen and Walker is the utmost accomplishment in all regards, after an inspection of same.  He is doing a real service to the antique gun collecting community in general and the skirmishing fraternity in particular.

The word "pricey" has a certain commonality about it and connotes a sense of being overly priced for value delivered and received.  The Ramano manufactured Keen and Walker carbine does not deserve to be maligned by being called "pricey", when in fact it is worth every dollar of the asking price from anyone who is capable of performing a cost/benefit analysis.

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Re: Maynard 1st. Model Question
Reply #10 - Oct 29th, 2013 at 4:30pm
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No malignity intended, I assure you, CMM.  I consider Larry a friend, and have purchased a couple of his rifles.  But, for those who are used to Italian repro prices, they are "pricey" by comparison, just as a Mercedes is Pricey compared to a Ford or Chevy.  Larry does Mercedes-quality work, and that usually requires Mercedes prices.  Is there some other adjective that better conveys my meaning? The gun is just shy of $4K.
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 30th, 2013 at 5:33pm
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   Thanks for that John (Penna)

   I think we are both on the same page here.
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   C.M.M.
  
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