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Ballard Sear Spring
Sep 17th, 2013 at 12:26pm
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We have been down this road before. Homemade sear spring for set trigger action. First one broke after about 40 shots. Second one bent after about 150 shots. Other springs (main spring, triggers, etc.) heat treated the same way work fine. Am I missing something about heat treating very small springs?
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Re: Ballard Sear Spring
Reply #1 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 12:56pm
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Chuck,
Do not know your process for quenching small springs, I learned that if you place the small thin ones on a 3/16 to 1/4" thick piece of scrap steel using vise grips to hold the plate (1/4" x 1" x 3" is what I use) then heat plate and spring to quenching temperature or correct color, slide  the spring directly off the plate into a cooling medium at least 6 to 8 inches deep (water/brine) they usually take full hardness, then temper to your needs.
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Reply #2 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 2:01pm
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Try making from a spring paper clip. You know the Black ones with two handles sticking out.
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 3:06pm
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I haven't made one of those springs yet, a member here sent me an original that I installed and have been using for months!...But, The problem i had with my Cody Ballard #7 was self induced i think...The screw for the heavy spring for the set trigger came loose and would not work. I took the block apart found the problem and tightened the screw. Tightening the screw all the way made the spring way too tight and the knockoff of the rear trigger damaged the sear spring. Later after realizing that, I , after installing the new to me spring, adjusted the heavy spring just a little tighter than necessary for reliable Knock off....and haven't had a problem yet! I just thought I'd share that because maybe your screw for your rear trigger is set up too tight?

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Reply #4 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 11:06am
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Thanks for the comments. They are helpful.
Mike-- Good thought. Having trouble keeping the heat with my holder.
Nailman--May try that. Good material source. Currently using carbon steel bandsaw blade.
Terry-- Will double check the triggers, but think they are OK.
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Reply #5 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 3:58pm
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Chuck,

Are you using a small heat-treating oven?

  

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Reply #6 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 10:26pm
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No, just a torch and eyeball, usually acetylene/air, for quench. Burn oil or a niter fertilizer salt bath and lead thermometer to temper.
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Re: Ballard Sear Spring
Reply #7 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 11:47pm
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The last time I replaced a Ballard sear spring, I got into my box of old broken springs and found a broken single action spring (the double spring for the trigger and bolt). After some careful grinding, it fit perfectly and worked like a charm.
  
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