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folding rear sights
Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:13pm
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I need a rear sight for this rifle. I was thinking of enlarging the dovetail to get rid of the notches or covering them with the new sight, and putting in a folding two or three leaf type. Sarco has some but I was hoping to find some with a little more quality. Any ideas where I might find some?

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Re: folding rear sights
Reply #1 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:00pm
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Looks like a muzzle-loader, right?
Do just you want a good functional folding leaf rear sight or are looking to find one that is "correct" for the rest of the rifle?
Is this going to be a target rifle or a hunting rifle?
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 4:02pm
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Here is a picture. I am looking for something to not only to hide the dents on both sides of the dovetail but that will help upgrade the rifle a little. It is a fine little R/B that once I clean it up, give it a freshening of the checkering, remove the varnish and apply a nice oil finish to the flame birch stock. I think it will be a nice addition to my collection. 
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I was thinking about something along this line without the base, but I am open to other ideas.

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Reply #3 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 5:29pm
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Oh!  Folding leaf sights?  Those are expensive.  Good luck finding any you can install yourself.
  
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Re: folding rear sights
Reply #4 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:27pm
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What an intriguing looking dovetail! It almost appears that the two "dents" are actually recesses for a leaf spring like the Spencer barrel sight, but I don't recall seeing a Remington, or any other rifle for that matter, with that kind of sight. A conundrum...
  
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Re: folding rear sights
Reply #5 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:46pm
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VERY interesting don;t remember seeing a roller with a keyed-on forend before.  Looks very custom and nicely done to boot.  Just looked in Marcot's sporting roller book. (every time  get that book out I get lost for an hour or two) There are a couple custom rifles with forearms keyed on with single wedges.   Most are from western gunsmiths Gove appears to have been partial to them and Hawken-looking stocks.   I have looked carefully at all the sights illustrated and I see nothing like that.  He mentions a special sight developed fo the Cadet 7 /American Boy Scout #4s but do not show a detailed picture or description.  An inquiry with photo addressed to Dick Binger might possibly be informative.
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Reply #6 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 10:03pm
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You might see if you can modify the base of that quarter-rib sight to something like shown in the following pictures that will fit your existing dovetail

  
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Reply #7 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 10:48pm
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Check Track of the Wolf. They have a pretty good selection of   vintage style sights.
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 6:50am
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Check Brownell's, they have express type sights although I don't remember off hand who made them. You can also check Midway USA. Any sight you get will have to be regulated for each leaf with your load.

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Reply #9 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 10:29pm
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I think the express sights are made by New England Arms or New England Mfg or something like that.  you might also check the muzzle-loading supply sites.
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 1:52am
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There are sights available like what you want, just hard to find.  Jeffs Outfitters has one that could be adapted to work, I have one of them and it's not bad, but it's not excellent:

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NECG  (newenglandcustomgun.com) has one that's better, I installed one of these in a mauser rib by cutting  a long dovetail, and another on a big bore dangerous game rifle by making a custom base.  This sight is well made and it is excellent:

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The NECG sight is a Recknagel, good traditional german quality.

Best of luck!

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Reply #11 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 8:13pm
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thats the sight that SteveD put on my 40-70SS   Earle/Wesson express-rifle project.   I have an original Beach (that needs a new large ivory bead) for the front.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 22nd, 2013 at 1:47pm
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The gun companies in Scandinavia (ie Gustav, Husky, Haugan etc) made a lot of sporting rolling block rifles with keyed and pinned forends.  A Birch stock is very consistent with that location of manufacture. Many of them also have two and three leaf rear barrel sights.  They use a much shorter dovetail than the NECG. However functional, from a traditional viewpoint, I don't find them as attractive.
As for the American Bay Scout Rifle sight, it is a ladder with slider configuration so not in keeping with what you want to do even if you could find one.
  
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Re: folding rear sights
Reply #13 - Sep 22nd, 2013 at 8:07pm
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RBKenn wrote on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 1:47pm:
The gun companies in Scandinavia (ie Gustav, Husky, Haugan etc) made a lot of sporting rolling block rifles with keyed and pinned forends.  A Birch stock is very consistent with that location of manufacture. Many of them also have two and three leaf rear barrel sights.  They use a much shorter dovetail than the NECG. However functional, from a traditional viewpoint, I don't find them as attractive.
As for the American Bay Scout Rifle sight, it is a ladder with slider configuration so not in keeping with what you want to do even if you could find one.


That was my first thought when I saw the original post. This Roller was Scandinavian, and maybe the OP is too! (svartkrutt sounds Norwegian) I own a Type 33A Husqvarna with a full length forestock that has two keys holding it on.
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Re: folding rear sights
Reply #14 - Sep 25th, 2013 at 6:51pm
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Well I am not Scandinavian but I do specialize in Scandinavian arms and svartkrutt means "black powder" in Norwegian. So you can consider yourselves pretty good detectives. 
Here is a picture of some of my others, as you can see I do like the odd stuff.

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