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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3787 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:12pm	Print Post
	I posted a WTB on the buy and sell forum, but thought I would cross post here. I have a flyless hammer (flat spring) and a newer single set trigger lower tang. I sent a message to Baldwin Sights as suggested, but thought I might check with you skilled craftsmen here. Ballard Arms has a hammer, fly and pin listed separately for about $115, but there is no indication that the hammer has the slot in it. Like some others, I have had no luck contacting them. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jack

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firearmdoc Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: May 19^th, 2013	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #1 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:34pm	Print Post
	You will also need a set trigger sear. Jesse


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3787 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #2 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 8:24pm	Print Post
	Jesse, I have all the parts as shown in the DeHass book on page 181. It lists a set trigger sear. Is the main sear the same? Thanks

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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1827 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #3 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:54am	Print Post
	The set trigger sear has a shallow groove cut in the bottom curvature for the fly. Also, the sear spring is a little thinner than a standard sear spring. Try Wyoming Armory in Cody for parts. Bob


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3787 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #4 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:25am	Print Post
	I guess I will do some disassembly this weekend. I have two other walls with set triggers. I will take one apart and compare the sears. Thanks

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:19am	Print Post
	What did Steve Baldwin have to say?

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3787 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	He just replied to my email stating he could slot the hammer but asked the same question about the sear. I will do some photos of the parts on both my high walls in the next day or so. Thanks

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3787 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #7 - Sep 8^th, 2013 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	Problem solved. I just picked up a hammer with fly on eBay. I will have to cut a slot in the sear but that does not look too difficult. The sear spring does not seem any heavier than the one in my other wall with a set trigger. I will try to measure the amount of force required to trip it. Steve Baldwin indicated that he could slot the hammer, but he only had military flys. Not sure what the difference is. Jack

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firearmdoc Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: May 19^th, 2013	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #8 - Sep 8^th, 2013 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	Not sure what a" military fly" is, but Winchester had two different types they used. The first type would keep the hammer at full cock when the action was closed. The second type would drop the hammer to half cock when the action was closed. Jesse


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3787 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #9 - Sep 8^th, 2013 at 8:09pm	Print Post
	I have an older model that I picked up and had reworked by John King into a 45-90. It has two flys, The normal set trigger one and another that functions as a decocking fly. When I picked up a couple of other high walls recently, I sort of missed tat feature.

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #10 - Sep 9^th, 2013 at 10:07am	Print Post
	Have you talked to JKing about what you want. He could certainly do whatever work you wish to have done.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3787 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: High Wall Hammer Fly Modification Reply #11 - Sep 9^th, 2013 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	I should be good assuming the hammer I got off eBay works as advertised. I figure it would be close to $100 if not more to have a fly installed. Jack

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