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Reply #60 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:27pm
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Indeed, will definitely look at Plinkington. Need to get the other bits polished and whatever so can get off to Dale before heading out for some hard-earned vacation. Retirement is tough, but someone has to do it. Wink

Here are a couple of pic's of my silhouette partner's C. Sharps Hepburn. I was mistaken in remembering it being in the grey, which his High Walls are. 38-55, 28" barrel and set-up for Shuetzen. Earl (that is not him in the pic) is terrific off-hand marksman after many years of flintlock competition. He generally shoots around 35/40 in our 200m all off-hand silhouette match. It is a very nice rifle and makes me wonder who does the engraving for C. Sharps. Earl did mention that it took two tries to get the double-set triggers so they would reliably work at about 8-10oz.
  

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Reply #61 - Jul 16th, 2012 at 1:03pm
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I would guess the ebony insert in the buttstock is a repair, as I've never seen another like that in person, or pics. I'ts a very nice touch though, and I'd be happy with it.
I used to use nothing but Pilkington's Laurel Mtn. Permalyn sealer, but at $30 a can I decided to look at other options. I have switched to Minn Wax Wipe On Poly, which is a very similar product, and gives equal results at lower cost. I did the Hepburn in WOP satin, and wet sanded about 12 coats into the wood. The first 4 coats pretty much soaked up the finish, and after that it began to get a buildup of nice sheen.
After the final coat I like to rub the stocks with rotten stone solution on a rag to get a glass like finish. Then I buff with Minn Wax paste to a nice sheen.
  

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Reply #62 - Jul 16th, 2012 at 3:49pm
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Am going to strip the wood on the stock without touching the ebony, which I also like. After removing the buttplate have found that the ebony is quite professionally installed. Will steam the larger of the few dings. Final finish will hand-rubbed BLO. Have always liked the result with same. Was thinking of the Pilkington, but, the $30 for 2oz sort of puts me off, as well. Probably will not put on a 'slick' finish, like poly.

Am undecided about the forearm. Not sure I like the steel end-cap as much as the ebony insert. Hmmm......
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Reply #63 - Aug 1st, 2012 at 9:20pm
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Got some polishing done on the receiver and lever and are off to Dale Woody for final polish, remarking and some engraving.
  

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Reply #64 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 4:00pm
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SSShooter,
In the mail today was my Hepburn. Dale Woody did the engraving and french grey. The grey was acheived by nickeling and then blasting. He also replaced the lettering that I had to remove when polishing as I had to draw file and sand out pits. I am very pleased with his work. The photos do not due justice to his work as the detail and stippling doesn't show up.
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Reply #65 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 4:06pm
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Photo of Hepburn before. It had been blued over pitting.
  

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Reply #66 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 4:13pm
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Photo of the other side of the Hepburn. I also asked Dale to blue the block, triggers, hammer and screws.
  

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Reply #67 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 5:21pm
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Beautiful. Am looking forward to getting mine back. Have decided to go with some (minimal) engraving and case-coloring the receiver/trigger guard and blued everywhere else. Am thinking something in the style of the rifle shown on page 126 of Roy Marcot's Rolling Block book.
  

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Reply #68 - Sep 28th, 2012 at 12:33pm
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OK.... barrel was finished by John Taylor yesterday and Dale Woody now has the barreled action so can start his part of the restoration. Expecting the new silhouette stock from CPA in 3x wood next week. If all goes well, should be shooting it in the spring.
  

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Reply #69 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 3:18pm
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New wood is with Millard Hixson who is fitting and finishing the wood. Am starting to get excited.
  

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Reply #70 - Nov 30th, 2012 at 12:23pm
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Hi Guys I am enjoying this Hepburn Thread, having acquired a great Match B Model.
There is a good Hepburn article in Guns Digest  2002 , that I photocopied with some decent trivia, including the fact that although there is no factory records, it is known that pre 1888 (receivership year) the patent info is stamped on the right side of action and barrel is marked "E. Remington and Sons ILION NEW YORK" and post 1888 the pat date is stamped on the left side of receiver, and barrel is marked REMINGTON ARMS CO. ILION N.Y. MINE is the latter with ser # 81XX , and I am guessing around turn of the century D.O.M.

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Reply #71 - Dec 1st, 2012 at 9:37am
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I had to go through thread again as I am amazed at the diligence going into these restorations and the wonderful documentation you are adding with all the great pics

I have a couple questions on mine , if anyone would be so kind to answer, and even though I dont have a camera or know how to post pics, I have a couple pics taken by the Dealer I bought from, that I can send by email if anyone wants to PM your email to me
Mine is stamped 32.40 M under fore stock, But for some reason it was rebored to 38-55 stamped further down the underside of barrel, visible with fore stock on.

  Also under forestock is matching ser .#  81xx , Is this a soft Barrel?
also a number stamped underneath  20xxx close to receiver. What would this be a , possible work order # for factory  rework?
I dont have the actual numbers right in front of me

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Reply #72 - Dec 9th, 2012 at 10:35pm
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Phil - sorry, but had not noticed your posts. 

Not sure what you mean by a 'soft barrel'?
  

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Reply #73 - Dec 10th, 2012 at 9:56am
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Phil, Like SSShooter I missed your earlier post and questions.
I did notice on a Rock Island auction earlier this month (lot 3059) they sold a two digit (41) serial numbered Hepburn long range rifle. It had the Hepburn patent markings on the right side of the receiver. Perhaps there is something to the 2002 article you quoted about when and where they put the patent stamps.
I don't have a clue about the 20,XXX stampings under the barrel. How long is the barrel, could have had some gunsmithing work done on it, but that really doesn't explain the numbers stamped on it. That may remain a mystery. The serial number under the barrel should match the numbers on the side of the tangs. Many times, however, the lower trigger tang was replaced for one reason or another and may have a different serial number. Richard
  

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Reply #74 - Dec 10th, 2012 at 12:42pm
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Soft barrel, as compared to smokeless steel barrels from late 1800's and later. All early firearms from before smokeless powders were made of a softer steel, and will wear quicker when shooting jacketed bullets in them.
This doesn't mean they wont hold up to smokeless powder loads and cast lead bullets, but don't shoot jacketed, and keep the pressures to reasonable levels. I've got numerous blackpowder barreled singles and repeaters, and shoot them thousands of rounds with no problem.
  

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