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Reply #45 - Jul 11th, 2012 at 3:19pm
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D.Z. Arms, who builds some beautiful new Hepburns (check their website) sells the action parts. Will order a new trigger spring once Dan is back from the Raton nationals in a couple of weeks. Will then progressively thin it until I get it worked down to ~2#.

Will polish the receiver down to a 600 grit finish (per Dale Woody) and send off to him for remarking the lettering. Have also decided to add some minimal engraving. A nice scroll border on each side with something simple, like a fleur de lis in the center. Then have case hardened. Spoke with John King today and should have the forearm end-cap early next week. Won't surprise me if the forearm is toast and will have to have another made. That shortened barrel will come in handy for fitting of same. 

JT said he is six months out on the barrel, so have plenty of time to get the rest of the work done (famous last words).
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Reply #46 - Jul 11th, 2012 at 3:53pm
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Not sure if there was a rhyme or reason, but I have one lettered on the right side under the lever like shown in your photo above. 

Note: Now shown in the photo below since you moved them.     Grin

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Reply #47 - Jul 11th, 2012 at 4:45pm
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Could not get the server to resize the pic's, so moved them to this post. 

Notice the lettering is on the right side below the lever. Dale said that he has seen a couple of Hepburns lettered on the right, though most seem to be on the left. Have also ordered a new forearm from CPA (mine was cut  ~2") to go with the new end-cap from John King.
  

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Reply #48 - Jul 11th, 2012 at 8:22pm
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Nice pics, SSS.  That action looks to be in excellent shape.  Very little pitting.  You'll have to get the action annealed before any polishing can be done.  The two I've worked on were harder than a woodpeckers lips.  The only thing that touches them without annealing first are diamond files and the case is quite deep.  Let me suggest getting the receiver polished and ready and also fit your forearm.  Then have JT do the barrel work.  He can then send it back to you with the barrel screwed off so you can send the action out for engraving. Have the barrel and receiver colored to your choice and then reassembled.  Less chance for any dings or what not done to your engraving.
  
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Reply #49 - Jul 11th, 2012 at 10:45pm
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Yes....... the lack of pitting is what convinced me that I needed a Hepburn. Based on JT timeframe (he's running 6+ months), I'll likely send it for annealing and then get it back to do the polishing before sending along for engraving & case hardening. 

The gun had been liberally oiled several times in its storage history, which was a friend's father's gunsafe for the past 30? years. Much of the oil had dried to a almost hard 'mung'. But, saved the metal and allowed the screws to turn out without too much effort. Here's a pic of what makes a Hepburn tick. 

Have to figure out how to get the set-screws out that hold the lever in place to complete the disassembly. They are chipped, etc., and can't get a screwdriver to take a bite. All else was very easy.
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Reply #50 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 12:56am
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I polished mine out without annealing it, and I asked Dale if he wanted it annealed before he engraved it. He said he doesn't have any trouble engraving them without annealing. 
I asked for very simple engraving on mine, but gave Dale free run to do what he thought best. It was much more than I had planned, but I was happier with it when I saw his idea of what it should be.
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He also engraved the bottom of the trigger guard, and lower tang. And since he had the barrel, he did a bit there too.
  

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Reply #51 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 5:55am
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That is really nice!! Hope that mine looks that good when finished. Based on yours, I'll likely give Dale a moderate budget and a free hand, as well. Interesting that the trigger and block are blue (as are mine) rather than case-color. 

What did you have done with the screw heads? I'm thinking of the standard hot-blue. While not as purty as nitre-blue, is a whole lot tougher finish.
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Reply #52 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 9:42am
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marlinguy, very nice indeed! I gave Dale the same freedoms and I left it up to Dale. I suspect mine will look allot like yours. I am having Dale do an antique french grey type of finish that he recommends. All my past work on Ballards have been CCH'd and wanted to see what he recommends on the grey that he says is much more durable than other greys. 
SSShooter,  When I get mine back in a week or so, I will post before and after photos to give you an idea of what his work looks like on mine. Like Marlinguy, I polished mine without annealing and didn't have any problems. My Hepburn had been reblued over a pitted receiver so I had to draw file it and then polish to 600 grit. Of course, that took off all the original lettering. It also had a modern 30-40 Krag barrel on it. Took me several months to find an original 32", three digit serial numbered, part octagon, part round barrel, that I polished and rust blued. I refinished the original stock and forearm, but also had Treebone make fancy new stocks that I will send off to Dave Crossno later to fit. Putting a shotgun plate on it, probably similiar to what Marlinguy did. These projects can take a year or more to complete!
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Reply #53 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:43am
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Richard - please do post the pic's. Am looking forward to seeing the grey you mention. Thanks.

My BPCR silhouette partner has a C. Sharps Hepburn that is engraved and finished in grey that is very nice. Is his "off-hand" rifle in 38-55. He is supposed to shoot our 200m, all off-hand BPCR match tomorrow. If he brings his Hepburn I'll snap a couple of pic's of it and post, as well. As nice as it is, like my C. Sharps High Wall, I prefer the original.
  

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Reply #54 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 12:02pm
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SSShooter wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 5:55am:

What did you have done with the screw heads? I'm thinking of the standard hot-blue. While not as purty as nitre-blue, is a whole lot tougher finish.


I had Dale hot blue the screws and the hammer/block. I've seen mostly blued blocks and hammers on Hepburns, and I love the contrast myself.
  

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Reply #55 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 12:15pm
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Crown-C wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 9:42am:
marlinguy, very nice indeed! I gave Dale the same freedoms and I left it up to Dale. I suspect mine will look allot like yours. I am having Dale do an antique french grey type of finish that he recommends. All my past work on Ballards have been CCH'd and wanted to see what he recommends on the grey that he says is much more durable than other greys. 
SSShooter,  When I get mine back in a week or so, I will post before and after photos to give you an idea of what his work looks like on mine. Like Marlinguy, I polished mine without annealing and didn't have any problems. My Hepburn had been reblued over a pitted receiver so I had to draw file it and then polish to 600 grit. Of course, that took off all the original lettering. It also had a modern 30-40 Krag barrel on it. Took me several months to find an original 32", three digit serial numbered, part octagon, part round barrel, that I polished and rust blued. I refinished the original stock and forearm, but also had Treebone make fancy new stocks that I will send off to Dave Crossno later to fit. Putting a shotgun plate on it, probably similiar to what Marlinguy did. These projects can take a year or more to complete!
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Thank you Richard! 
I got a Sharps style buttplate from Track of the Wolf, and Dave made the buttstock to fit closely to that plate. They're a nice checkered steel plate, with a smll point on the top that adds some style.
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Never have gotten it checkered, as I like the smooth feel of the stock.
Dave did the stocks or my #1 Roller also, and I found this old engraved skeltonized buttplate at a local show for $4, and had to put it on the Roller:
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Reply #56 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 6:02pm
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Marlinguy,
I think our buttplates are almost identical, but I got mine from George at Treebone. I had some nice wood I had bought some time ago. I really like the skeletal plate and like to try one in a future project.
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Reply #57 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:07am
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Beautiful wood & work. Have that buttplate without the side screws on my C. Sharps High Wall.

Think I'll be staying with my stock stock, as it is a nice piece of wood. I wonder if the ebony piece was installed as a repair or to match the ebony piece in the shortened forearm tip on this rifle? May find I cannot get down into it with a consistant cheekweld so will have to use a strap-on cheek-piece as with the High Wall.
  

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Reply #58 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 11:31am
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SSShooter,
Your original stock is nicely figured and I agree with you to keep it. It's nicer than mine and when you get all the years of accumulations off of it, I would bet it will look outstanding. The last several years I have been using Pilkingtons to refinish wood. Dave Crossno recommended it to me and it does great filling in and has a low to high gloss depending what you do with it. After using Pilkingtons I then just put on layer of wax for protection. I've included a couple of photos of the hepburn I did. The wood was dinged and soft from years of oil. Hot iron and damp cloth took most of the dings out and used Whiting to take oil out of it. I still need to do more wet sanding to finish it. I had Tim Smith-Lyon do the re-checkering as it was worn smooth. Had to do some filling with accra-glass around the buttplate as it was chipped, plus I filled the buttplate cavity with glass to keep more chipping from occurring.
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Reply #59 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 11:35am
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Buttplate is mostly polished and still in the white.
  

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