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Reply #30 - Jul 9th, 2012 at 6:27pm
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Thanks. How does one contact John King?
  

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Reply #31 - Jul 9th, 2012 at 7:34pm
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How does one contact John King? Call him at 406-755-5352
  
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Reply #32 - Jul 9th, 2012 at 8:41pm
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Thanks. I'll give him a call.

Does anyone know who might be able to remark the receiver with the correct lettering? Would like to get it remarked prior to having it re-case-colored. While most of the case-coloring is gone, the blue on the block and hammer are probably 95% or better. Under where the base of the Lyman tang sight was sitting the case-coloring is beautiful.
  

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Reply #33 - Jul 9th, 2012 at 9:24pm
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This is just my opinion but I would rather have a Hepburn with an average single trigger than a Hepburn with an above average double-set. Those double set triggers in hepburns are tempermental and not that great on the best of days while the Hepburn single trigger is outstanding when well adjusted. I think John King has stamps for the barrel markings as well as the receiver. If it were mine I would leave it as is and not mess with the triggers or refinish as it looks pretty good as is but its your rifle. You may find the butt stock uncomfortable. Treebone carving has shotgun butt replacements. Please dont cut it off and put a long recoil pad... There are more than a few Hepburns out there that had that done. Barrel work, a simple professional trigger job, a new butt stock, a few hundred bucks worth of sights and you will have a outstanding bpcr rifle. Best,

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Reply #34 - Jul 9th, 2012 at 10:28pm
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Per da Haas, I'll likely trim the trigger main-spring to get rid of the rebound feature. Can then lighten the trigger to a reliable 2#, or so. From what I've read and info from a friend who shoots a new C. Sharps Hepburn, the double-set triggers are not the way to go. 

Don't think I'll be cutting down the stock. Has $500 of very nice checking that I would hate to pay to replace. Will try my slip-on recoil pad to help with the curved buttplate. For now, will have the 29" barrel lined and trigger done and then shoot it. Will eventually go the whole 9-yards and have the lettering done, metal & wood refinished and original barrel lengthened and lined. All in good time.
  

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Reply #35 - Jul 9th, 2012 at 11:14pm
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SSShooter,

As to relettering, Dale Woody, (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links), is relettering and engraving my original Hepburn now. Should have it back in a couple weeks. He normally is backed up about 6 months. Very reasonable prices and he has also done Ballard work for me in the past and I have been very satisfied with his work.

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Reply #36 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 7:02am
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Small world. Have been e-mailing back and forth with Dale trying to set up exactly what work to have done. The lined barrel will need to be blued. 

One question to all is on what side of the receiver is the Hepburn Patent 1879 info? Someone I was talking to said left side. Mine is on the right side below the lever. 

Same question on the serial number. My barrel and lower tang are both marked on the bottom with matching serial numbers. However, now that I've removed the stock I find that both the upper and lower tang are marked on the side (under the wood)  with serial numbers that match each other, but are about 600 different from the external serial numbers on the lower tang and barrel. Are the two serial numbers on the side of the tangs only to match up the receiver and lower tang while the external serial numbers are to match up the action and the barrel?

Last question (for the moment)........ hot-salt blue or rust blue for the barrel? What did Remington use originally? Big difference in cost.
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Reply #37 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 7:55am
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SSShooter,

Mine is lettered on the left side. Not being an expert on Hepburns, I will let someone who is do more explaining on the lettering and serial numbers. Mine doesn't have a serial number on the bottom of the lower tang. Also the side serial numbers on mine do not match. I suspect because the lower tang is removeable like the high wall, that many are changed out. It has set triggers and that could be the reason someone changed the lower tang.

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Reply #38 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 9:19am
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I've got two Hepburns and the numbers on the sides of the tang don't match on either one.  
Is there really a need to eliminate the rebound feature of the firing pin as long as it's going to remain a black powder round?  That will eliminate the need of having to put it on half cock each time you reload.  Bob
  
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Reply #39 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 9:33am
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There is no need to remove the rebound feature of the mainspring,as long as regular Black  powder loads are used. I owned three Hepburns(my best was stolen)at one time or other and never had any trouble with them.One was 45-70, one was 40-50 SS and one was 38-50 Remington.
  
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Reply #40 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 9:49am
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Am told that lightening the trigger pull is a problem with a rebounding trigger. I want a crisp 2# trigger. The only work necessary to remove the rebound, per da Haas, is to remove 3/16" from the end of the hammer spring. Not a big deal and easily replaced, if needed.
  

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Reply #41 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 10:00am
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It is the hammer that rebounds,if you do away with it you must remember to pull the hammer back to quarter cock before you open the action.
  
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Reply #42 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 7:29pm
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Put in a lighter trigger spring and you should be able to get down to about 1 3/4lbs.  Keep the rebounding firing pin if it's not a hot rod.  Bob
  
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Reply #43 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 8:21pm
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Will be BP, only. 
Where does on find this "lighter trigger spring"?
  

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Reply #44 - Jul 10th, 2012 at 9:35pm
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Both of my Hepburns and all my Rollers have the patent dates on the left side of the receivers. Dale Woody recut or restamped all the receiver and barrel markings on one of my Hepburns when he engraved and re-cased the action.
The buttplates on Hepburns are not a bad shape, but they're so thin and small that heavy recoiling cartridges make for sore shoulders. when I did the restoration on the one Dale engraved I had Dave Crosno build me a stock set with a larger buttplate area to accept a Sharps buttplate. Even with warm .45-70 500 gr. bullets it's much more comfortable.
I built a trigger spring ffrom .050" piano wire on my Hepburn and the trigger pull is now about 2-2.5 lbs. My set triggers on the other Hepburn are wonderful! I've never adjusted them in all the years I've owned it, and they have seen a fair amount of shooting.
  

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