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8.15x46R: Why you should never get rid of anything
Mar 28th, 2012 at 7:35pm
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When I dug out the rifle I posted about in the "Kettner" thread in the Single Shot section I had no idea where it would lead. I got to thinking that I hadn't shot it in a long while and maybe I should. I noticed Buffalo Arms had some of the German Stop Ring bullets which are what the target 8.15x46 used. The stop ring is an over diameter band that stopped the bullet from entering the case beyond the point where it contacted the neck and filled the space between the neck and the leade. The Germans used this for their Schuetzen shooting instead of breech seating the bullet as was done here. A close examination of my chamber looked like it might well be throated for the stop ring but the only way to be sure would be to try one in it. I ordered a box of the stop ring bullets to try. I dropped one in the chamber and measured the length from the breech face to the bullet base and then saw where the base would be in a case. The stop ring was just beyond the case mouth. I wondered if my cases made from 30-30 were short. I remembered that back in the 70's I had ordered some Speer/DWM 8.15x46 cases and I managed to find them. They were 46.4mm long and this closed the gap between the neck and the stop ring. Good to go - except that these had turned out to be Berdan primed which is why they had gotten packed away back then. Also back in the 70s I had gotten some different Berdan primers just to have around. They had gotten packed away also. I found them and some were the right fit. I fired one to make sure they were still good. Now I had to decap, the bane of Berdan. I remembered that one time I had picked up a Berdan decap/recap tool in an antique store. I dug it out. It was marked 8mm. Could it be? Yes! I was in business because I had never gotten rid of these "useless" things over the last 40 years. Next, to see how it shoots with these components....
  
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Re: 8.15x46R: Why you should never get rid of anything
Reply #1 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 9:03pm
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And some folks call our stuff "junk"!  HAH!  Smiley

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Reply #2 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:28pm
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I have several of these and they are great. I have made sleeves for shot-gun size ones for doing the large British cases they sure make getting the primers out easy. I have a fair supply of berdan primers and it is a lot cheaper than going to new boxer primed cases.
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Reply #3 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 9:57am
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I am going to show this post to my wife. Cheesy
  

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Reply #4 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 1:32pm
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The difference between junk and stuff: "junk" is the stuff you throw away, and "stuff" is the junk you keep.  Goat Smiley
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 4:29pm
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MerwinBray--I'll second that!!!!  Fritz
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 6:32am
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There is junk then there is junque.
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Reply #7 - Oct 13th, 2015 at 8:21pm
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Would you believe that after 3 1/2 years I finally got around to shooting some of these stop ring bullets? Closing the breech snugs up the case/stop ring/leade. Well, surprise (not!) it liked 14 grains of H4227. Might have to pick up a mould in case I want to try it again in a few years.
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 13th, 2015 at 10:55pm
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Sometimes I take one of my old Ideal tong tools to the range if I'm diddling with seating depth. It's always drawn looks and comment when I'm seen squeezing down on a round. Most have never seen one in use- or at all. So, your decapper would probably fascinate the gang around here. Chiseling out a primer would be too odd for 'em.
Cool stuff, and glad ya got to actually use it, huh?
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 13th, 2015 at 11:33pm
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I use stop ring bullets in my German target rifles. They work okay. My brass, RWS and 30-30 based are boxer primed. 

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Reply #10 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 9:55am
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The real difference between junk and good stuff is:
Good stuff is everything we keep. Junk is all that good stuff our families sell after we die.
  

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Reply #11 - Oct 15th, 2015 at 12:31am
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Go figure. I ordered the stop ring mould from Buffalo Arms today and then decided I might as well decap and recap the brass. So, where did I stash the slick German decap/recap tool 3 1/2 years ago? I looked everywhere I thought it should be to no avail. I see a massive time consuming hunt in my future.
  
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