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Re: 45-70 false muzzle
Reply #15 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 11:22am
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Tommy, normally when loading a false muzzle breech loader, a plugged case is inserted into the chamber and the breech closed, not a primed or loaded one, then the bullet seated, the plugged case removed and a charged one inserted.  That way you're not working on loading a bullet into a primed/charged case with the rifle closed and cocked.   Shocked

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Reply #16 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 3:10pm
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I had used Ed Larralde in several instances many years ago. Still have a barreled A1 Mid Range Ballard he installed a barrel for me. I was informed at the time he was selling Saeco molds and had been "familiar" with Mr Barry Darr. Late 70's to early 80's if I remember correctly. He put some 38-55's, 32-40's, and 40-70's and at least 2  45-70's for me. There was a barrel maker in Montana that he used alot in the late 70's. Nice gentleman.
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Reply #17 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 6:13am
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next week the piece of wood i have in mind goes to the sawmill for a cut or two then off to cpa. I have to build a seater for it, i am going to build both a pope style and at barry's suggestion a breech seater. I have owned too many big bore bp rifles so i will ring this un out.  i have an mva rear will try to see if they make a base or i will so wil; have a little fun getting this one on the bench will post results when it is done.
  
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Re: 45-70 false muzzle
Reply #18 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 8:09am
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problem with tang sights on Ruger SS rifles is the safety button.  A lot of target-only #1/3 rifles have had the safety mechanism removed, just to simplify things.  I guess they feel that since it is a target range-only rifle a positive safety is not required.  (I have reservations about that myself
Some also use the ex-safety slot to anchor a breech seater but a highwall-style breech seater works pretty well.  Steve Durren makes a real nice one, as do the other usual suspects

If there is no safety its a matter of getting the angles of the base correct and then drilling and tapping.  Some have fabricated a new safety button with "wings". That way the bottom of the sight base can be relieved so it bridges over the safety.  the "wings" extend on each side of the base so you can still have an operational safety.  I have a #3 project slowly percolating and I'll go that route myself.
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Re: 45-70 false muzzle
Reply #19 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 8:36pm
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being a tool and die machinist making a site base is not a majot thing will most likely incorporate a breech seator in it. this does not have a safety so it will be easy have a long way to go and a short time to get it done.
  
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Reply #20 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 12:33pm
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Ooooh! Photos when you've got 'em, please!
  

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