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irish66 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 536 Location: newbraunfels Joined: Apr 7^th, 2007	45-70 false muzzle Mar 11^th, 2012 at 10:43am	Print Post
	found a really nice I beleive unfired 45-70 false muzzle rifle on a ruger #3 it has all the tools . the rifle was built by a gent E larralde of santa barbera ca. it came with a collection of old brass some date stamped to 1943 in good shape. can anyone tell me any thing about the gunsmith? i plan on stocking this rifle and shooting it here locally. thanks
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16302 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #1 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:42am	Print Post
	Haven't heard the name Laralde before. Looks like nice work on the various pieces. A quick Google search turns up several people named Laralde in the Santa Barbara area, so you might consider contacting one of them to see if they have/had a relative that might have been the gunsmith involved in your Ruger. There's also the possibility the barrel and tools were on a much older gun previously, and refitted to the Ruger action later.

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Jerry_H Ex Member	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #2 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	irish66, Try contacting the San Diego Schuetzenguilde or one of it's members. I know some of them knew and shot with Ed. Send me a PM if you don't have any luck and I'll try and get a phone number for you. Jerry H


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irish66 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 536 Location: newbraunfels Joined: Apr 7^th, 2007	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #3 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 4:25pm	Print Post
	jerry thanks will try to get in touch with russ. or harold. thanks


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #4 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	Irish it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the barrel was not made by Barry Darr. Is there any markings on the underside of the barrel. J.Louis

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irish66 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 536 Location: newbraunfels Joined: Apr 7^th, 2007	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #5 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 5:35pm	Print Post
	on the underside is E Larralde 1/30/83 nothing else. will check with a friend in kansas who is a close friend of barry darr and see what he may know.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #6 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 7:50pm	Print Post
	Irish send Barry a PM he goes by ole7groove on this site. J.Louis

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Jerry_H Ex Member	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #7 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	irish66, Russ would be the one to call. He answered a few questions about some of Ed's things I have. Jerry H


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irish66 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 536 Location: newbraunfels Joined: Apr 7^th, 2007	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #8 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:13pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Irish send Barry a PM he goes by ole7groove on this site. J.Louis will be calling him tomorrow night, all ready called russ and left a message will try again tomorrow. thanks m


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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #9 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 11:14am	Print Post
	Irish, As I PMed you Ed was an employee of Saeco and was there when Barry Darr was in Carpenteria with Bob so like Louis I think it is a darr barrel. Saeco sold to Redding after Bob died Ed stayed in Santa Barbara for some years.


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #10 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 7:19pm	Print Post
	NICE FIND!!!! one of those that makes me almost Froggish with envy. With that barrel and a heavy stock it should be a pussy-cat off the bench or crosssticks. check the twist and match you bullet to that. and it will be real "condition" resistant. Dave Crossno has several nice stock patterns for Rugers

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irish66 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 536 Location: newbraunfels Joined: Apr 7^th, 2007	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #11 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 7:16am	Print Post
	all ready have a stock in mind from cpa i have the wood mesquite. and do not bpcs any more but will shoot it at tssra fall match in oct if ready.


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tommyauger Full Member Offline Posts: 159 Location: Altoona Joined: Oct 15^th, 2008	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #12 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:08pm	Print Post
	I understand the false muzzle sort of. case in the camber. Than push the bullet down muzzle to a depth you want. is this correct. Also can you load everything from the breech if you choose?????TommyAuger

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irish66 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 536 Location: newbraunfels Joined: Apr 7^th, 2007	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #13 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	dontknow about loading all from the muzzle guess you could. had a great chat with barry darr tonight. he told me all about this rifle and some of the history of saeco. the rifle was assembled by Ed Larralde the barrel and tools were done by him. I am proud to own it. irish


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7324 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 45-70 false muzzle Reply #14 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:39am	Print Post
	Congratulations, owning a Barry Darr barreled rifle is quite a honor. Frank

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