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Reply #15 - Feb 23rd, 2012 at 8:41pm
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Bad memory ... Pope's shop was on the 4th floor, not the 18th.  Sorry guys!
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 24th, 2012 at 5:37pm
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Another question for the gun quiz.  Watched "The Day of the Jackal" on TV a couple of days ago.  The assassin definitely uses a single shot rifle, "custom made by the evil gunsmith".  Does anyone have any idea what sort of action was used?  And what kind of cartridges are those?  I first thought Velo Dogs, but they look too large.  25 Hornet?
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 10:19am
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Waterman,

I bought that book (hard bound) for my cousin as a gift about 10 years ago. In the book they had detailed drawings of the weapons. I, unfortunately do not remember what it was or have any idea if the drawings in the book were what was used in the movie. But I always thought that the added detail of the items used by the Jackal was neat. I may need to find a copy for myself.
WOuld be interesting to know what was in the movie and if it is the same as the book!
  

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Reply #18 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 3:30pm
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I seem to recall reading that Dr. Mann had a name for his personal range..does anyone know?
Thuer, I believe you are confused between the name of his range (which I have failed to note reading the book) and the "Shooting Gibraltar", the 100yd shooting contraption he built at his homestead farm in Norfolk, MA ... on a concrete bed & pier with V angle rests and the whole thing covered with canvas in the secluded part of the property surrounded by pine trees .  He built it to exclude any external elements impact when he was doing his various tests 

And it was his buddy, Dr Skinner who christened the contraption the "Shooting Gibraltar"
  
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Reply #19 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 7:46pm
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Hello, John Boy..no, I knew about the "Gibralter" rest..I mis-remembered..wasn't a name of his range...it was a sign he told Pope he was going to erect over his range...NO competition allowed!
    He wanted that range to be used for experimentation, and learning..not to brag who was the better shot.   That doesn't sound like such a bad range-rule today.
  
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Reply #20 - Sep 17th, 2012 at 7:11am
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Are you thinking of the place where Mann and Skinner went to shoot and hunt woodchucks? They called Skinner's place The Medics Woodchuck Preserve. I know for a fact that Dr. Mann, Skinner, Niedner, and it was said Pope went to Shushan, New York. It is also believed that they kept a room there in a boarding house and had a shooting house just outside of town.
Recently I went to Shushan, NY to take a look around. It is a very small , and quaint place with many old buildings, and a covered bridge. The residents there that I talked with haven't a clue of who Dr Mann, Skinner or the rest were. I'm going to contact the local historian and see what I can find. I'm sure that many of you have seen this old photo that I'm posting. It has sparked my interest in the area of Shushan. Have made a few trips there to hunt woodchucks now. Plan to give it a try next year with my old Stevens 44 rifles.

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Reply #21 - Sep 20th, 2012 at 11:24pm
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Great idea!
Any more questions out there?
  
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Reply #22 - Sep 21st, 2012 at 3:53am
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Sendaro,

You can probably identify the Medicus Woodchuck Preserve by looking at old land ownership records at the county court house.  It won't be called that, but it was probably owned by one of the woodchuck shooters.

Unless Michael Petrov can tell us.

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Reply #23 - Sep 21st, 2012 at 11:38am
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This is the kind of thread that really makes this forum worth reading! Great history, and pictures!
  

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Reply #24 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 8:28am
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I have a friend that is a county historian for Fulton County New York. I plan to enlist his help with this quest. Funny thing is that even though I'm retired it seem that there is never enough time to do all that I want to do. I guess that some of this is getting older and slowing down a bit more that I had though. 
Killed a nice buck back on the 31st of October. Went to drag him out and found that it wasn't as easy as it once was. Thank God for ATVs!
  At any rate the venture into locating Skinner's place in Hoosick Falls NY was done via PC and Google Earth. Looks like that has all been built over. 
  Would love to find the place at Shushan with their shooting house was. I'll bet that if it was located it wouldn't be to hard to locate where the targets were. That may lead to the recovery of some of the bullets that they shot. I'd just love to have one from that!
It may sound a little silly but I feel a connection to those shooter of yesteryear, as I have also been a woodchuck hunter and on a quest for all the accuracy I can squeeze out of my rifles. 
Shooting the old single shot rifle and using the old equipment is a way of bridging to that past, and having the experience.
  
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Reply #25 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 9:50am
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This is the kind of thread that really makes this forum worth reading! Great history, and pictures!


  Marlin Guy, I could not agreed with you more.  What we do today is greatly influenced by what those who went before us did.

  Anyone interested in the life and times of our shooting brother, Mr. Philip B. Sharpe, who lived and worked in Adams County, Pennsylvania, please let me know the nature of your interest and perhaps I may be able to assist you.  I am, at the present time, working on a historical background project that involves his life and activities subsequent to W.W. II.

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Reply #26 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:11pm
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The normal group  at Shushan, New York were Dr. Mann, Niedner,  Leopold and Dr. Baker. They had a shooting house they called "The Gun Room".  The last time Mann was there the place had burned down.


Most of the Woodchuck hunting was on the local farmers land.

I'll check into the Skinner stuff and post if I find anything worth while.

Before I say the next thing please understand I am not upset or mad. 

Years ago I  when I saw my pictures hijacked and posted and published without my consent it would upset me so I put my name on them which was then erased or cropped.   I have Mr. Niedner's scrapbook and photo album and I seldom post any historical pictures because of this.  

That is a swell picture of the guys with their gear however I would look at it very close  before I published it.  Smiley Smiley
  
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Reply #27 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:30pm
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.22-5-40 wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Hello, John Boy..no, I knew about the "Gibralter" rest..I mis-remembered..wasn't a name of his range...it was a sign he told Pope he was going to erect over his range...NO competition allowed!
    He wanted that range to be used for experimentation, and learning..not to brag who was the better shot.   That doesn't sound like such a bad range-rule today.



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Reply #28 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:15pm
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Thank you, very much, Michael.

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Reply #29 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:16pm
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MP,

    I have no intention at this time to publish that photo in anything. However what is the problem with it that you say to look close at? 

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