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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #15 - Feb 5th, 2012 at 4:46pm
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The depth of the chamber is 3mm and the bore is definitely .38
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #16 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 6:47am
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3mm seems very short indeed! The 38, is it .358 or .377 or something close or entirely different? (was the 3mm a typo??) You have me very curious now!

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Reply #17 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:22am
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very likely a error in measurement. this is all new to me
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #18 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 12:58pm
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The depth of the chamber is 3mm and the bore is definitely .38

Could you mean 30mm or 3cm?  That would make more sense, since it works out to about 1.181"...

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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #19 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 1:51pm
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David,

that would make more sense. If it were, and combined with something around the .358-365 range (going from a guessing memory here) a .38 long sounds real close and they did make a lot of these in that round. IIRC. Cheesy
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #20 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 1:53pm
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LWB,

If you are measuring using metric then if it were to be a .38 long type round you should be getting just a shade above 9mm i would think as far as diameter.
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #21 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 7:02pm
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Is that measurement perhaps the rim thickness and not the chamber depth?
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #22 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 7:36pm
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Marlinguy, I think a rim thickness of 3mm would be a bit extreme...that works out to .1181"...darn near 1/8" for those who use a tape measure to figure out gun parts!  (When I was at my former employer, I did have folks call up needing information, and that was the most sophisticated measuring device they owned!   Roll Eyes Lips Sealed)

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Reply #23 - Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:38am
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I looked at the measurements again with the tools I have and as nearly as I can tell the chamber depth is 1 3/16 inches and the bore diameter is 3/8  of a inch. If this does not make sense then I quit.
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #24 - Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:54am
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Makes perfect sense! Don't quit now! you are almost there.
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #25 - Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:55am
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We're getting somewhere now.  3/8's of an inch is .375.  I believe that is the bullet (and case mouth) diameter of a 38 rim/centerfire. Inch and 3/16's length of case should be 38 Long (I think) this used a heel bullet of around 147 grains. Take a look at the breech block to see if it's rimfire or if it's centerfire. Smiley
  
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Reply #26 - Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:46pm
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Center fire
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #27 - Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:48pm
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Will .357 case fit the chamber? It might be too short.
  
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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #28 - Feb 7th, 2012 at 11:07pm
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.38 Long Centerfire...case length is 1.03", but a heeled .376" bullet would require a longer chamber before it tapers into the throat.  Loaded length 1.45", this is per Donnelley's Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions.

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Re: Stevens Tip up in 38-??
Reply #29 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 7:57am
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I have anold Ideal tool. I think it was the number 8 model, in .38L that throws a hollow base bullet just for such an occasion! Getting the brass to fit SHOULD be a matter of trimming something else to length!

You may have yourself a shooter there. Probably not match grade but possibly minute of squirrel! There is not much better to me than reviving a classic and putting it to use as it was intended. Great feel! I would be willing to throw a few slugs for you from my mold the next time I cast. I would cast them VERY soft so they expand to fill the bore on firing. Let me know!  Cheesy

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