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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Early 1885 value Feb 9^th, 2012 at 9:22am	Print Post
	Is an 1890 vintage Highwall in 32-40 with the following attributes worth $2600? - 30"?(maybe 28") #3 round barrel, bore OK - standard wood (straight grip curved buttplate, standard fe) in good shape - standard trigger - Lyman 103 tang sight and simple small post front st. - basically no finish on barrel or receiver Thanks.


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1694 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #1 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 9:40am	Print Post
	In my area, the standard rifle like you describe is worth about $1200. If IIRC, the 103 is windage adjustable and fairly desirable. It could pull in $4-500 at auction. Bob


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mwhite49 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Camarillo California Joined: Nov 14^th, 2007	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #2 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 10:37am	Print Post
	I just sold one for 1,100.00 and wondered if I would get that for it. The prices on some rifles seems to be going down. Mike


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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #3 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 10:47am	Print Post
	The price seemed high to me, but I don't follow these on a regular basis, so I appreciate the opinions. If it were a higher grade rifle or had some special order features (the round barrel did seem a little unusual for this time period), I could justify it a lot better. LC


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16346 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #4 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 1:14pm	Print Post
	Round barrels on 1885's are extremely rare, but they don't seem to garner much (if any) premium. It's one of those things that only collectors who have everything want. Neat, but not as attractive as octagon or half octagon. Prices are not down on really rare, or high end guns, but for below average guns the prices seem to be lower now. I'm sure they'll come back, but the price seems pretty high, even when they do come back.

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mwhite49 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Camarillo California Joined: Nov 14^th, 2007	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #5 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	There is on exception to the falling prices and that is anything Marlin Ballard if Forged. On Gunbroker a plain but complete forged Ballard action just went for a bit over 1,500.00. and any Ballard is still up there. Mike


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2923 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #6 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	If it had a 30" full octagon #3 barrel and decent case on the receiver it could be my old rifle. $1000-1200 is likely the fair range on such a rifle. The key will be how good the bore and wood are. Can always put the set trigger parts in it.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4072 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #7 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	gewehrfreund wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 9:22am: Is an 1890 vintage Highwall in 32-40 with the following attributes worth $2600? - 30"?(maybe 28") #3 round barrel, bore OK - standard wood (straight grip curved buttplate, standard fe) in good shape - standard trigger - Lyman 103 tang sight and simple small post front st. - basically no finish on barrel or receiver Thanks. Ir sounds to me like the seller is trolling for a sucker. The feathers on the hook would be the 103 sight, which by itself is probably worth $400+ in good shape, while the rest of the gun, as described with "no finish on barrel or receiver" but with wood in "good shape" is probably about a $1000-1200 gun here. This sounds more like $1600 than $2600 around here. He might get his price from someone new to the game and wanting a "real" high-wall, but that's well beyond what most folks I know would even consider... YMMV. Froggie


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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7575 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #8 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 8:23am	Print Post
	I with the other guys on 1200 or so plus 300-400 for the 103 if it's in good shape is tops. "bore ok" thats a deal breaker for me. If the rifle is not a collector intended to be used as a shooter compare it to the good reproductions prices. 2600 will bring a very nice rifle from several of the small shop American builders. Same with the sight 300-400 for a 103 same price for a MVA that's probably going to be a more useful target sight Collecting is different and these prices ranges don't apply. Sky is the limit if somebody wants it, common rifle few collectors want. Boats


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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #9 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 4:09pm	Print Post
	The bore MAY have been fine, but it was in need of a serious cleaning, so I couldn't really tell. I agree this is probably a fishing expedition to see what they can land. Knowing the dealer who has it on consignment, I doubt he'd entertain an offer of $1600. Oh well, that's why I have the WTB in the classifieds for a Browning/ Winchester 1885 Traditional Hunter/Ltd with 28" barrel in 32-40


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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7575 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #10 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	Crisp new 100 dollar bills few gun dealers can turn down. If the bore is OK and same price as a Winchester-Browning the Original is a better buy Boats


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16346 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #11 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 10:40pm	Print Post
	mwhite49 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 3:30pm: There is on exception to the falling prices and that is anything Marlin Ballard if Forged. On Gunbroker a plain but complete forged Ballard action just went for a bit over 1,500.00. and any Ballard is still up there. Mike That's good to know! I might have one too!

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ssdave Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1836 Location: Eastern Oregon Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #12 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 10:49pm	Print Post
	I saw that one, too, and though I'd sell my pacific action if they're bringing that. I just bought something else that I need to sell a personal item to pay for, and that might be just the thing. dave


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2923 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #13 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 12:37pm	Print Post
	boats wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Crisp new 100 dollar bills few gun dealers can turn down. If the bore is OK and same price as a Winchester-Browning the Original is a better buy. Boats I paid $916 for my 28" long Win-Miroku in 32-40. Am guessing the original High Wall will get nowhere close to that.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: Early 1885 value Reply #14 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	Well, if you get tired of it in the near future, or need to finance something new, let me know


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