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Cat_Whisperer
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Re: wind flags
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40_Rod wrote
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and made a pointer/counterweight to balance out the front.
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40 Rod
It works well (as it's one of the one's I watched as I didn't bring any) but seriously, the counterweight should have been in TRADITIONAL COPPER (with patina) instead of PLASTIC!
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Re: wind flags
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Any wind flag design will work!
The secret is to learn to read what ever kind you have
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Re: wind flags
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Joe my problem with the vanes, daisy wheels and tails is that I have a hard time watching the speed of the daisy wheel, the direction the vane is pointing and the tail while trying to concentrate on my hold it is like looking at four dimensions and then trying to process it all at the same time I am trying to squeeze the trigger.
I played around with the wind probes for a couple of years with the addition of a Snoopy Tail and or a sock and I just recently went back to the sock alone.
I believe the majority of BR shooters do use the daisy wheel, vane, tail setup with great success it just doesn't seem to work for me.
Unfortunately the only other range I have been able to shoot at to date was in Springfield Oregon at the 2006 CBA Nationals and I had to add 6ft risers to my stands in order to get my socks up high enough. Shooting across the creek where the gremlins flick your bullets as they fly over was extremely challenging.
By chance do you have a picture of your wind socks I would enjoy seeing how they are put together. Roland Groppe's socks looked like they were made out of sail material and man could he read them.
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Re: wind flags
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Does anyone do a digital readout at the bench from a remotely placed annemometer?
(In a varnished mahogony traditionally styled case of course.)
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Jim I could not agree with you more that is the secret to success.
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For model airplane flying I have a fat piece of yarn on music wire.All i need to know there is wind direction. We used yarn on the sailboat sails also to set the sail at its most eficient angle.
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Here's a good one, you know the
barf bags
(mine are blue and look like a condom) that they use in hospitals, just cut the ends out of them and install a rod and you have a wind flag very much like the one's that John showed use. And very cheap.
I had two of these flags up and running for 4 months before they got all shot up by dumb sh++'s...
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Re: wind flags
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Well I don't like daisys as they are slow to respond and slow to slow down. They are like flywheels. Actually I like my flags to have a little weight bias to the tail or vane as it gets rid of the windshield wiper effect.
My flags have tricolor propellers that start and stop instantly with wind changes. The tricolor allows you to see angles better and I use the propeller to tell me when not to shoot. The vanes give me direction and the molded sail tails give velocity.
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Is there any info on the correlation of tail angle to wind speed?
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Re: wind flags
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frnkeore wrote
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Is there any info on the correlation of tail angle to wind speed?
Yes.
Depends on the ribbon - lenght/mass etc.
But the thing to learn is appearance of (insert your flag here) and how much to adjust L-R.
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Re: wind flags
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What I'm really asking I guess is, what length/weight of any particular ribbon could you correlated the MPH of the the wind? Weather in it's natural state or weighted or any other configuration. Such as a chart or graph. Or a formula i.e. L+W X 30 deg to vertical = 10 MPH (14.666 fps).
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Re: wind flags
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I want a daisy wheel with a speedometer attached to it. Will have to have bullet proof glass for sure.
I'd like to see one of you sock jocks do that with a sock, heh heh.
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Re: wind flags
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frnkeore wrote
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What I'm really asking I guess is, what length/weight of any particular ribbon could you correlated the MPH of the the wind? Weather in it's natural state or weighted or any other configuration. Such as a chart or graph. Or a formula i.e. L+W X 30 deg to vertical = 10 MPH (14.666 fps).
Frank
The answer is yes.
There are pictures here and there (sorry I don't have one at hand) of particular ribbons in varying degrees of wind. A forumla could easily be derived.
Which is to say, reading the angle from a fixed position is problematic as the wind isn't but rarely at right angles (to the line between wind indicator and the observer) and visually it would be tough to get it right on. But if the wind sensor were to swivel into the wind and if the sensor had a rigid paddle that was hinged the sensor could put out a voltage (indicating angle) that could be readily converted into wind velocity.
The cost of hand-held annemometers is continually coming down too. The new ones are plasitc battery powered and have digital readout. I have an OLD one that, if you want to calibrate your own ribbon, I will loan you. It reads a number and you have to time it to get fps or mph.
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Re: wind flags
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The obvious benefit of putting a number on wind velocity is that one can record the amount of drift experienced for a given cross wind - helping one learn how much to offset in similar conditions. (Given that over 100-200 yards the conditions can be recognized as 'similar'.)
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How are you going to get all of these flags between you and the varmint, Learn conditions with triggertime. watch the grass and leaves. Be aware of your suroundings. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. Practice in the wind with a 22 so you know how to deal with it. practice is what seperates the winners from the competitors, Good eyesight and some intelegence also helps.
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