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henpeckedmuch
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Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Apr 10th, 2011 at 1:51pm
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I can find very little information on this model. It is a straight stocked 44 1/2 action with a high comb and a shotgun butt and stag head butt plate. It is not the 0441/2 English gun.
Does any one know what calibers the model 404 was offered in? 
  I have only seen a couple of these rifles in the past and they were all in 22 caliber. 
I have been able to purchase one recently but I believe the barrel came from another gun and has been renumbered and fit to the gun, possibly at the Stevens factory sometime in the past. 
As, the barrel serial # found in the normal place doesn't match the receiver, but a matching serial # to the receiver can be found under the forearm.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #1 - Apr 10th, 2011 at 4:12pm
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Is it stamped 404? Could be a plain 44 !/2 that someone changed the wood on, since a short one screw fore end would show that number. Is the barrel a full round one?
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 10th, 2011 at 4:58pm
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It sounds something like mine.
I took this picture of mine a couple days ago. Does it look something like this?
   All I know about mine is that it's a 44-1/2, in .22LR. 
The barrel, receiver, stock, and forend all have the same ser.#. A four didgit # begining with 2. Seems like a low # to me, so I'm guessing fairly early manufacture? It also has the ejector.
  Mine has a very straight stock too. There's very little drop from the comb to the heel. Maybe 1/8 to 1/4". Compared to most Stevens it appears almost parallel to the bore.
   Scott.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #3 - Apr 10th, 2011 at 9:25pm
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That's a real beauty Scott!
  

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2011 at 10:02pm
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If I remember my Grant, the 404 "Armory Model" was on the 44-1/2 action, only came in .22 LR and was distinguished by a checkered beavertail forearm with a sling loop in it.  It should have a receiver sight like the 414.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #5 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 5:15pm
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actocs, 404 had a round barrel, only.                                          Bentramrod, 404 had a Lyman 42 reciever sight.                             Frank dehaas did an article in the American Rifleman on a 404 with a 44 action, I looked for it with no luck, maybe Rudy's got an index on a CD & he can find it.     Good luck,    ...MIKE...
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #6 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 12:34am
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actocs, I did a little research on the 404 tonight. What I am thinking is that you have a standard 44 1/2 with the optional stock fitted with a shotgun butplate. This was a $1 option in the 1914 cagtalog. The standard sights on the 404 were a Stevens 210 globe front sight and a Lyman #42 reciever sight. Yes the barrel was round.
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 1:05am
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Thank you slumlord, that's interesting and helpful to me. I'm trying to learn as much as I can about my rifle. I was curious about the stock configuration and stagshead butplate.
 At least I know the history of it. It belonged to my best friends Grampa, and his Great Grampa may have been the first original owner. Somehow, I picture him purchasing it out of a gunrack at a hardware store or something. And I'm just sure this rifle played a part in bringing home some meat during the depression.

 I'm wondering if the four digit ser.#2*** is any indication of early manufacture or not. I think these were made from 1903-1916.
 If anyone can give me any more helpful information about my rifle pictured above earlier in this thread, I would like to here it.
 I added the Marbles tang sight myself. I still have the original barrel mounted rear sight.
 Scott.
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #8 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 6:34pm
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Can you provide a picture of the left side of the reciever?  I want to know if it has a milled slot for the # 42 Lyman sight similar to the milled slot on a 414? I am 80 years old and have never seen a 404 up close.

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #9 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 7:08pm
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actocs, Is there a number stamped on the front of the receiver or on the lower tang, forward of the trigger?     ...MIKE...
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 7:31pm
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ACTOS, Yes my stock does look like yours in the picture. Although mine doesn't have the ejector like yours. Mine does have the stag head butt plate like yours.
Don G, From what I've heard the 404's were built late in production, And for only two years, on the 44 1/2 actions and not the 44 action like the 414's I have only seen two of them before and they didn't have the rear sight slot milled into them. But someone here mentioned that you could order a shotgun butt plate for the 44 1/2 so maybe what I've seen wasn't really 404's. Both of them had 28 in. #3 barrels in 22 cal. but I didn't pay any attention as to whether they had octogon to round or just round barrels.
I was hoping someone here would know more about them and inform me as to what calibers they came in.
  
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Reply #11 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 8:06pm
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Mike, on the front of the reciever hidden behind the forearm is the 44 1/2, with a zero on each side of it. Barrel has a 2 under the forearm. No other numbers on lower tang or near the trigger. Just the 2*** ser. number.
-Scott.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #12 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 10:04pm
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So it's a speciel order 44 1/2 with optional full octagon barrel, & no charge, optional hard rubber butt plate.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 model 404?
Reply #13 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 10:04pm
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I have a 44 1/2, 22 RF much like actocs's accept it has DST with a shotgun type butt stock. The wood is nice but plain like his. Someone put a brass home made butt plate on it. Some said on this thread take they make a replacement Stag Head butt plate? If so, where would I get one?

My marking on the face of the frame are as follows, veiwed from the front.............

         49

44        O

Does the 49 make it a Walnut Hill? The only picture I've found of a 49 so far is one with a pistol grip stock. Mine has a straight stock lower tang. and a plain S lever not the loop lever.

Frank
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Reply #14 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 10:14pm
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Mike, mine is the typical octagon to the front of the forarm and round tapered to the muzzle. It may appear full octagon in that picture because of the lighting angle.
-Scott.
  
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