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Freeland Scope Stand
Feb 20th, 2011 at 6:42am
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SPOTTING SCOPE STANDS
     I had a Freeland spotting scope stand for well over 30 years. It originally came with an about five pound round lead weight on the bottom of the rod, but that never seemed to do any good so I took it off maybe ten years ago.
     The Freeland stand waved around while shooting from the bench, and offhand without support it is close to unusable.
     A few years ago I bought a camera-type tripod for another spotting scope and found that it was stable from the bench and even offhand. Hanging a gallon of water from the stand gives more stability in windy conditions.
     A few weeks ago I bought another camera-type tripod at the Salvation Army store for $4.99 and put a spotting scope on it.
     This week I sold my Freeland scope stand. Compared to the tripod the Freeland is very heavy, bulky, and waves around something fierce. I don't know why I kept that Freeland stand for all those years when the tripod is so obviously superior. Am I missing something? 
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Re: Freeland Scope Stand
Reply #1 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 7:21am
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Sure.

You can stand close to the Freeland while in positon and watch the spotters when the target is raised from the pit's And it will adjust for offhand sitting and prone. None of which you can do with a tripod.  Across the course shooters don't look at bullet holes.

I use both but rarely use the tripod, mostly only when spotting somebody else in Silhouette.  Yesterday club silhouette match I used the Freeland stand while spotting too. It's so much smaller on the line nobody trips over the extended legs and I just lashed the shaft to a post on the shooting house.  Wind was something fierce but tied down it never moved. Tripod was in the car's trunk

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Reply #2 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 7:26am
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The Freeland stand was designed for highpower rifle shooters firing across-the course matches at a time when spotting scopes were light weight and were used only to see the location of the spotter and the value of the shot, not for seeing bullet holes.  Also they had to adjust for prone, sitting, and standing positions.  When used in this matter they are fine, but do not work well for Scheutzen. Camera tripods don't work well for highpower because the won't go low enough for prone or sitting and take up too much room for the space alotted in the firing point.
With the advent of the large objective heavy spotting scopes of today the Freeland stand is nearly obsolete due to it's instability when the scope is at bench or standing heights.
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Re: Freeland Scope Stand
Reply #3 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 10:21am
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So, what is being used for a good tripod?  In a moment of weakness I bought a 30-90x90 NCStar and the scope is heavy, making the tripod is nearly useless.  So far, for 100-200, spotting scope is O.K., but don't even thinking of touching it.  Obviously, I got what I paid for.  I have a Bushnell 15-25x, which is good for the bench.  I bought the NCStar until I could afford a decent spotting scope.  Been looking for a camera tripod.
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Re: Freeland Scope Stand
Reply #4 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 11:04am
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Freeland obsolete ? there are an awful lot of them on firing lines more than any other type. Single mast bipod models are the ony way to go self spotting. New made single mast are mostly knock offs on Freelands design. Champion Shooters who owns the Freeland name is making a 1 inch tube stand now with a wide 3 leg base that works good for offhand work. It's too wide for prone though.

On Tripods Bogden, which I think goes under the Italian makers name now Manfrotto is as good as you can get.   

Mine is not the heavy one since I use it under a light scope and I use it in the field too, still very solid and extends high enough you can spot without bending over.  Fluid head made for video camera's is useful moving from target to target.

You can buy Bodgens as heavy as your wallet will allow.

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Reply #5 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 11:47am
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The issue with the Freeland design is the instability of the original very small tripod or later bipod.  The newer wide stance tripod designs coupled with a 1" diameter mast make a much more stable platform for the heavy scopes of today such as Kowa or the 100mm Konus or the like.
As you noted, the very large tripods such as the  Champions Choice take up a lot of space.  The sturdiest I have seen is the Creedmore with it's solid but adjustable tripod design, 1" mast, and primo head, but at over $300.00 it is out of my budget.  The requirements of the discipline being shot dictate the equipment used, with the sometimes necessary trade-offs.
  
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Re: Freeland Scope Stand
Reply #6 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 2:29pm
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That's it way the match is shot dictates the right stand.  I end up with more stands than scopes shooting several disiplines and a fair amount of field work with scopes looking at Hawks and other critters.  Good stand that suits the work is half the battle.

I just bought one of Champions 1 inch mast wide base outfits, it's better than my old smaller tube bipod base rig but still not stable by  any defination.  One good thing about the Freelands design is they interchange old parts fit the new parts.  Smallbore prone the bipod with scope mounted low works good

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Reply #7 - Feb 21st, 2011 at 10:30am
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Aah, a chance to brag. Smiley Fought spotting scope stands for years. Took the pipe clamp idea from one of Westerner's photos, cross bred it with my version of a Ray-Vin type support and a Manfrotto camera adapter.

Very solid and convenient with 80 mm Kowa scope when clamped on left side for bench work, tall enough for offhand between the benches. Tough for prone or sticks.
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Reply #8 - Feb 21st, 2011 at 1:16pm
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Freelands heads and accessories will fit right on a piece of pipe that's held by pipe clamp fixtures.  Champions choice sells them in parts you don't have to buy the whole outfit.

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Reply #9 - Feb 21st, 2011 at 1:28pm
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The Freeland Bypod is made for position shooting (Al was a Smallbore shooter) With the two legs you can get it in close for prone and not have to break position, same for sitting and kneeling. They are still the best design for this application (not stability). The heavier copies are much nicer for stability and vibration (but heavier).
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 23rd, 2011 at 12:12am
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The Freeland scope has a threaded tube at the base that you screwed a plug into.... That thread was intended to hold a Spike that you drove into the ground for stability, in offhand.. Removed the spike, screw in the plug back in, and lower the scope for the sitting and prone positions....Or take tuna fish can fill it with hot lead and insert a 3/8 (?) threaded rod quickly.... Works great....  Tommy
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 25th, 2011 at 8:44am
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Am shooting an AR in XTC service rifle competitions (200/300/600yd) and had a Freeland. Was so wobbly that was almost impossible to use in anything other than still conditions. And then only if you did not touch it. Purchased a Ray-Vin and it is excellent. Very still with my heavy scope and easy to spot .223 holes out to 300yd. Easy to use in all positions. Too bad the Ray-Vin owner retired and sold his business to some clown who can't seem to make anything. Ordered an extension which has been back-ordered for 5 months.
  

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Reply #12 - Feb 25th, 2011 at 10:53am
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I have a Manifroto (or whatever it is called) tripod.  With a bit of imagination, it can be adjusted for prone or even Schuetzen, providing the space allocated for each shooter is sufficient.  I have one of those video adapters but would not buy another one.
  
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