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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3857 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Dec 18^th, 2010 at 1:22pm	Print Post
	Just picked up a single cavity B&M 311193 mould and handles at the Salem, VA gun show. Anyone have any experience with it?

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7142 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #1 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	Show us a pic of the mold and bullet. I'm I'm very anxious to see a BT cast bullet. Frank

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3857 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:03pm	Print Post
	Here's the pix. Haven't plugged in the Mag20 yet.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7142 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:31pm	Print Post
	It's a beautiful looking bullet. I've never seen one like it before. What do you plan to shoot it in? 30/40, maybe? Frank

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3857 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #4 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:44pm	Print Post
	Don't have a 30-40. Candidates now are Martini Cadet in 30-30 and Rem 40X in 7.62 Nato.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7142 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #5 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 6:05pm	Print Post
	The 30/30 sounds the best. Try putting a filler over the powder to the base of the bullet to protect the BT. Maybe the shot gun filler Grex or in a pinch, Cream O Wheat. Frank

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3857 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #6 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 6:28pm	Print Post
	Good idea. I have COW and often use dacron. But for this I'll be trying everything -

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MIKE-T Oldtimer Offline [SHOOTCAST> Posts: 636 Location: Wexford Township Michigan Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #7 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 6:54pm	Print Post
	Cat_Whisperer That is a fine looking bullet, make sure you let us know how it shoots for you, have always had the urge to have a 200 grain plus mould cut in that BT shape, I have been testing the bullet below with a similar nose but GC base. Good Luck with it, MIKE-T I have test fired the Lyman 323366gc bullet with out GC in my 32-40W breech seated, my rifle has a 8m/m .323" bore so it fits really well. It shot just OK until I added a 1/32" plastic wad breech seated with the bullet, when I kept velocity to 1300-1400fps I shot some very good 100-200 groups with it this fall, then put the targets where I would not loose them & did a heck of a job as I can not find them. All bullets went though target nose on, really would like to use it but they only weigh 185-6 grains when cast from 25:1 alloy and even with the pointy nose they drift more than the pointed 215 B&D bullet I usually use.


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3857 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #8 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	Frist glance. 20:1 (I was casting 300gr .40's) and 700dF. Probably should be hotter. Didn't bother to take oil off mould either. Odd bullet is the about 200gr .30 HBC that Jay Downs designed (I did the cad work). Bullets weigh about 182gr and measure 0.311 as cast. What flavor of 1/32" plastic did you use?

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MIKE-T Oldtimer Offline [SHOOTCAST> Posts: 636 Location: Wexford Township Michigan Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #9 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 9:05pm	Print Post
	1/32" thick HDPE polyethylene sheet material I cut with wad punch I use for cork wads. Material was only $2-3 for a 12x12 piece, had 1/16" thick also, but it took a lot of work to cut. MIKE-T


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3857 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #10 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	Thanks, MIKE - I've made several punches and can order the HDPE from McMaster-Carr.

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MIKE-T Oldtimer Offline [SHOOTCAST> Posts: 636 Location: Wexford Township Michigan Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #11 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 9:22pm	Print Post
	Funny that's where I got mine at! Mike


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7142 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #12 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 9:56pm	Print Post
	Mike, I have a single and double cavity molds for the 323366. I was going to ream the GC off the single and try it. What was your powder and charge? Frank

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3857 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #13 - Dec 19^th, 2010 at 9:05am	Print Post
	Frank - Have you tried it w/0 gascheck?

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MIKE-T Oldtimer Offline [SHOOTCAST> Posts: 636 Location: Wexford Township Michigan Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: B&M 311193 long pointy BOAT TAIL Reply #14 - Dec 19^th, 2010 at 11:14am	Print Post
	Frank I shot the 323366 bullet (No Gas Check used) cast from 25:1 alloy w/1/32" poly wad breech seated 3/32" deep, using loads of 13.7 grains N110 or 14.3 grains of H4227, Fed LR primer. Off to family get together, back on tonight, Mike
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