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Green Mountain Barrel Issues
Sep 4th, 2010 at 11:55pm
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Am building two BPCR rifles on Rem Rolling block 7mm actions. Caliber is 38-50. First GM barrel came out nicely tho quite heavy as it is 1 1/8th across the flats.

Second is another story. While chambering it appeared the bore and external surface were not consistent. Fitted and chambered OK but when I started setting up to turn this one to 1/2 round 1/2 octagon the inconsistency proved to be only part of the trouble. Was a bend in the barrel just where the forearm would end and the round would start. Was able to straighten it some but with the remaining bend and the inconsistent bore to barrel wall thickness I decided to not waste any further machine time on it and keep it full octagon. 

Both barrels purchased from Numrich but at separate times. First barrel shoots very well with little load development. Am VERY interested to see how this second does but I have my doubts it will make the grade.

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Re: Green Mountain Barrel Issues
Reply #1 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 7:35am
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I didn't know that Numrich sold Green Mtn barrels.  I have gotten barrels from both sources and the quality was like night and day.  My Green Mtn barrels were all 3 straight and the quality was high, and that was for a tiny little .25 cal octagon as well as a 1 1/8" in .45-70 and a 1" in .32-40.  The results I got from Numrich were not so happy with only one good .45 barrel out of several tries in a couple of calibers.  Are you sure that GM supplied that barrel to Numrich??

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Reply #2 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 8:07pm
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Only by the info from Numrich.  Was advertised and sold as a GM.
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 9:12pm
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Were these straight octagon or tapered?  No taper would be their old series, black powder only,  and who knows, possibly seconds?

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Reply #4 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:09pm
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Numrich will sell just about anything they can find, lots of seconds. I got a liner from them about 8 years ago and it was full of rust. They buy over runs also and sometimes have very good buys.
  

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Re: Green Mountain Barrel Issues
Reply #5 - Sep 6th, 2010 at 9:05am
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I learned my lesson through a friend a number of years ago. He bought a Shilen barrel from a supply house. After fitting and cambering it it wouldn't shoot after much work a friend scoped it and found that the rifling was gouged up. The barrel was returned and replaced. This time the blank was scoped before any work was put in it, same problem. A third barrel was tried and rejected. He finally went to a different barrel and bought it directly from the manufacturer. 
  The moral to the story is always buy from the manufacturer. The supply houses order lots of barrels and if there is a defect in 1 it may show up through the lot. A manufacturer will inspect the replacement to make sure that it is right, at the supply house the order puller just pulls another blank out of the stack and sends it out.

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Reply #6 - Sep 6th, 2010 at 9:14am
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I recently had an issue with a GM barrel.  Got it form Brownells,  I had threadded , chambered, all sight cuts etc, basically all done except roll marking. When I tried to roll mark it, the top line of the roll die rolled nicely, bottom line didn't even make a mark. Measured the flats on the octagon, they were not 45 degrees to each other. 

lesson leaned...always double check the barrel before machining...no matter where it came from. 

Mike

  

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Re: Green Mountain Barrel Issues
Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 10:30pm
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I guarantee if it came from Numrich it was a second. Numrich buys flawed barrels all the time. Things that the maker will not sell, so they sell the parts for scrap metal prices and Numrich makes a ton of money on these items.
Years ago I bought a .45 caliber octagon barrel from Numrich for a project and when it arrived it had a bore that was visibly off center. So far off that had it been 1/8" more it would have exited the side of the barrel flat!
I'd never buy a barrel from Numrich again.
  

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Reply #8 - Sep 8th, 2010 at 3:34am
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We have two prices on the oats we sell.  The expensive ones have not been thru the horse yet.  The cheap ones...
I like to think of them as recycled.

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Reply #9 - Sep 8th, 2010 at 11:09am
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Have not found one problem with the first GM from Numrich which is why I bought a second a few weeks later.
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2010 at 11:03pm
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I have bought all my Green Mountain barrels from Track of the Wolf and have never had a problem.  One 45-70, three 45LC and one 50 caliber black powder.  All great barrels.  Just bought a 40-65 for my Trapdoor Hawken
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