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Murdock
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Stevens 44 1/2 barrel in a 44?
Sep 1st, 2010 at 7:06am
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I have located a .25-20 caliber 44 1/2 barrel.  Can I use this to restore a 44 CF, or will it require re-machining?  Thanks.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 barrel in a 44?
Reply #1 - Sep 1st, 2010 at 8:21am
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Hello Murdock:

     I had a similar (really the same) situation whereby a 44 1/2 barrel became available to me and my first thought was to fit it up to a M-44 action.  Unfortunately, the two actions we are considering each have a different female thread.

     The one way to use a 44 1/2 barrel on a M-44 action is to cut the threaded shank from the barrel and re-thread it to set it back in the 44 action and rechamber it.

    In my case, that process would have resulted in a " too short " barrel, so I passed it up and went on to other things.    Smiley

   Creedmoormatch

  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 barrel in a 44?
Reply #2 - Sep 1st, 2010 at 8:48am
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   Hello Again Murdock :

   I just read your posting in the "For Sale" section of these pages and noted more fully what you are desiring to do.  Now that I am up to speed here, let me comment on the proposal to install a Numrich Arms 22 Rim Fire barrel on a M-44 J,.Stevens action.

   The 22 R.F. Numrich barrels are for fitting up to the M-1915 J. Stevens "Favorite" actions, not the M-44 action that you have.  If you want 22 R.F. for that action, which I consider an excellent choice, it would be best to search out and purchase a M-44 barrel of either central fire or rim fire (either will work) and send it out to be re-lined in the 22 R.F. cartridge and re-chambered to that cartridge.  These barrels do become available, but you must be willing to except the fact that it won't happen instantaneously, but it can and will happen.

  Also, be aware that if you find a M-44 barrel tomorrow, there is no guarantee that it will screw right on your M-44 action and index right up at 12:00 o'clock with the extractor cut exactly at 6:00 O'clock.  (yes, the threads are the same) Each barrel was fitted by hand, thus you will be faced with the result of that in order to get it fitted to your action.  Please also be aware, that the early M-44 actions were fitted with 7:00 O'clock extractors which I would try to avoid in favor of the later 6:00 O'clock position.

  One last point, and you should feel free to get back with me later if you feel I can be of further help; not all breech blocks fit with all extractors.  The milled slot in the block must match the width of the extractor, .   .   .   .not a big deal, just a point of information I would want you to have as you go through this project.

   My regards,      Smiley

   Creedmoormatch
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 barrel in a 44?
Reply #3 - Sep 1st, 2010 at 10:44am
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 Murdock:

    Wanted to add an additional point for your consideration.  During your communications while working on this project, you will mostly likely encounter an expression of opinions, albeit small, that would have you believe that re-lining a rifle barrel bore is inferior to replacing the barrel with a new made barrel with a " designer label " attached to it.  I mention this now to you because as you begin your search for a J. Stevens barrel I wish to remind you that most barrels that are to be found are very near to being 100 years old.  The likelihood that you will find one that is in good shootable condition is quite slim.  Most have been utilitarian rifles which have been used, some more that others, and their care, or lack thereof, is most often found to be wanting.  The answer to that situation is preserve the exterior, and the J. Stevens A & T Co. markings, and renew the rifling in the bore by way of a quality hammer forged liner professionally installed and chambered.

 The barrel liners of choice come from T.J.'s Enterprises in Kentucky and are of a premium quality.  They are hammer forged from chrome molly steel, and should you wish to discuss the product line further, you may reach Mr. Mike Sayers by telephone at 859-635-5560 during business hours.

 I personally have accomplished what you are suggesting, and that is, converted a .32 Cal Rim Fire Stevens M-44 rifle to .22Cal Rim Fire by changing the block and relining the barrel with a T.J.'s barrel liner.
The rifle is accurate at 100 yards and beyond, and competitive with more modern rifles that cost a great deal more to purchase.

I hope you find this helpful.

Creedmoormatch
  
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Murdock
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 barrel in a 44?
Reply #4 - Sep 1st, 2010 at 2:00pm
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Yes, thank you, Creedmorematch; very educational.   

I have wanted a 44 or 44 1/2 for some time and very much lucked into this one.  The issue of the Favorite barrel has come up because there was an incomplete Favorite action in the same box of stuff (mostly favorite and M44 stocks and forends) as the complete 44 action.

I have a line on a couple of .25-20 barrels, though I would love to find a .22LR.  In any case, I have decided to reline as needed, because much of the information I have found says that accuracy can be as good or better than with the original bore, with the 'smith being the greater factor in accuracy.

T
hanks again.
  
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