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bluesman Full Member Offline Posts: 193 Location: Paradise, California Joined: May 29^th, 2006	What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Aug 30^th, 2010 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Hello Gents, My Stevens 44/51 rebuild is nearing completion, and I am looking for advice on which of the many reamer designs would best suit a target rifle of this nature. I don't shoot competition , but want to chamber for accuracy. The tube is a Green Mountain and I plan to build a few more small bore single shots so I want to buy a proper chambering reamer.Any advice or suggestions welcome! Thanks! Bluesman


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7656 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #1 - Aug 30^th, 2010 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	I've always liked thr Freeland chamber for match 22 RF. I had my reamer made to thoughs spec's but I had the reamer maker put a longer lead on it. Frank

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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2255 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #2 - Aug 30^th, 2010 at 7:41pm	Print Post
	I use a Manson Bentz chamber on Martini rifles, since they have very little camming power to seat a bullet into the rifling. Your 44 probably has a little more cam action, but much less than the 44 1/2 design. I short chamber the Bentz reamer, and use a boring bar to cut the rim recess, so that the breechblock cams the case the last .050" into the chamber. David

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7656 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #3 - Aug 30^th, 2010 at 11:18pm	Print Post
	I thought everone might like to know the differances on match 22 chambers. The dimensions are from the pages of American Rifleman. As food for thought, I'm including my reamer measurements, so here goes......... Base in Lenght of front of lead front of rim chamber chamber angle Std match .2267 .643 .2248 5 deg Win 52D .2278 .580 .2248 2 deg Freeland .2242 .600 .2242 2 deg frnkeore .2250 .600 .2243 1.1 deg I went with a little more at the base to help extraction and 1.1 deg to load easier and more gently deform the bullet in the rifling. Frank

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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2255 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #4 - Aug 31^st, 2010 at 8:58pm	Print Post
	If my membry isn't too far off, the Bentz reamer, as made by Manson, uses a 1.5 deg. angle... but that conversation was probably four years ago or more. Time flies when you're having fun...or what passes for fun! David

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Set_Trigger Ex Member	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #5 - Aug 31^st, 2010 at 9:31pm	Print Post
	I thought the Bentz reamer was for Semi Autos. S T


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2255 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #6 - Sep 1^st, 2010 at 8:14pm	Print Post
	ST, that's what it was designed for, but I found that the Bentz reamer works quite well for single shots that don't have the camming power of a bolt action. It's a compromise reamer between the match chamber and the SAAMI standard design. I've found that the Martini rifles shoot better if the block can push the bullet a little bit into the rifling, which is why I short chamber them by .050" or so. They have enough camming/closing power to do that, but not enough for a true match chamber. David

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John Taylor Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1851 Location: Lewiston, ID Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2006	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #7 - Sep 1^st, 2010 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	This will really confuse you.

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SteveC Full Member Offline Posts: 105 Location: Tacoma Joined: Aug 16^th, 2007	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #8 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 5:12am	Print Post
	Thanks, John That's about the most complete list I've ever seen! Steve


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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 830 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #9 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 10:41am	Print Post
	It might be worth a mention concerning the choice and utilization of a match reamer. There was a consistant trend some time ago, and it still persists today that a match reamer choice must incorporate a substantial degree of bullet engraving upon full chambering and this is really not true. Many would probably find it surprising to find out how many precision smiths chamber match guns with little or no ingraving on the slug. The best benchrest smith I ever knew chambered barrels with no bullet engraving whatsoever. My own match guns utilize only engraving of less rhan 1/2 the first drive band of current ELEY. If you go with a tight chamber/straight chamber type reamer with a suitable leade, I persinally think you'd give up little by allowing for little if any engraving to allow for most SS applications IMHO.

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bluesman Full Member Offline Posts: 193 Location: Paradise, California Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #10 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 2:20pm	Print Post
	Wow, so far I am getting quite an education on chamber reamers, this forum is a Godsend.. Still have to decide how to go, but wanted to thank all who have chimed in here...fascinating.My most accurate small-bore rifle years ago, a BSA Mk.II engraved just a hint of the first ring on Eley Tenex, and RWS R-50.That made for relatively easy loading with just a hint of push. Had a pretty nice Win 52C that did not engrave at all...and shot near as well as the Beezer, but without the amusement factor of firing the spent brass over my shoulder . Anyway...still trying to decide, and enjoying the collective wisdom here... Bluesman


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Set_Trigger Ex Member	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #11 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 10:28pm	Print Post
	tim_s wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 10:41am: It might be worth a mention concerning the choice and utilization of a match reamer. There was a consistant trend some time ago, and it still persists today that a match reamer choice must incorporate a substantial degree of bullet engraving upon full chambering and this is really not true. Many would probably find it surprising to find out how many precision smiths chamber match guns with little or no ingraving on the slug. The best benchrest smith I ever knew chambered barrels with no bullet engraving whatsoever. My own match guns utilize only engraving of less rhan 1/2 the first drive band of current ELEY. If you go with a tight chamber/straight chamber type reamer with a suitable leade, I persinally think you'd give up little by allowing for little if any engraving to allow for most SS applications IMHO. Hope Bill C. dosen't hear about this, for him it must evgrave at least a square and have a 6:00 o'clock firing pin hit. S T.


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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 830 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2010 at 3:25pm	Print Post
	Quote: tim_s wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 10:41am: It might be worth a mention concerning the choice and utilization of a match reamer. There was a consistant trend some time ago, and it still persists today that a match reamer choice must incorporate a substantial degree of bullet engraving upon full chambering and this is really not true. Many would probably find it surprising to find out how many precision smiths chamber match guns with little or no ingraving on the slug. The best benchrest smith I ever knew chambered barrels with no bullet engraving whatsoever. My own match guns utilize only engraving of less rhan 1/2 the first drive band of current ELEY. If you go with a tight chamber/straight chamber type reamer with a suitable leade, I persinally think you'd give up little by allowing for little if any engraving to allow for most SS applications IMHO. Hope Bill C. dosen't hear about this, for him it must evgrave at least a square and have a 6:00 o'clock firing pin hit. S T. The guy I referenced built and shot 5 different guns that shot 250 25x's on an IR50 target. Bill is waiting for his first

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Set_Trigger Ex Member	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #13 - Sep 7^th, 2010 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	I know what your saying Tim and I agree. He hasn't been shooting very well but he sure talks a lot about how to do it and what to do it with. S T


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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 830 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: What reamer to buy for 22lr ??? Reply #14 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 11:48am	Print Post
	Quote: I know what your saying Tim and I agree. He hasn't been shooting very well but he sure talks a lot about how to do it and what to do it with. S T These are the PR considerations involved when you've put yourself in a position to charge $10,000 for a .22, and yes that is a correct number.

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