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forend fitting on Schuetzen rifle
Jun 24th, 2010 at 5:00pm
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I recently acquired a BSA International with an octagon barrel. It came with the original forend for the original round barrel but the  new barrel has not yet been drilled and tapped for the attachment screw. I originally intended to rout the forend  barrel channel to match the octagon shape of the barrel, but the round barrel channel that currently exists is a very close fit to the diameter of the barrel, the only thing being that the barrel channel is round instead of octagon. The fit is so close you cant notice any gaps. Is there any reason why the barrel channel should be routed to match the octagon contour if it isnt visible? THe width of the barrel channel is a perfect fit as is. Thanks! Joe S 
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 12:57am
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Joe, may be totally wrong but once you get the hole for the forend located and drilled and tapped, why not use acra glass gel to bed the round inletted forend to your octagon bbl?. Just a suggestion. Frank
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 6:31pm
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2 issues would concern me,  performance and appearance.  In any case at a minimum I'd be absolutely positive I got a good solid fit between the wood and barrel where the screw pulls them up tight. Any unsightly gaps, though small at the leading edge might be made invisible with tinted acraglas---if done carefully.

bedding for performance is a variable thing.  some simply full length solid bed with a very thin relief between the butt of the forend and the front of the action.
  

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Reply #3 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 9:35pm
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some simply full length solid bed with a very thin relief between the butt of the forend and the front of the action.

+1 for DWS8130's suggestion.  The relief is the width of a playing card.

If you don't want to do the bedding, put a plastic nut with a pointed screw on the front of the forearm.  Adjustment of the screw will give you floating barrel
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 26th, 2010 at 1:44am
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[quoteIf you don't want to do the bedding, put a plastic nut with a pointed screw on the front of the forearm.  Adjustment of the screw will give you floating barrel [/quote]



                                 HUH??   Undecided

  

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Reply #5 - Jun 26th, 2010 at 1:12pm
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Don't worry Joe we won;t try wedging you in there Grin

the little paperback gunsmithing tips book from Frank DeHasse ("Mr Singleshots Gunsmithing tips" or something like that) has a bunch of valuable info on fore-end manipulation for accuracy in single shots.  well worth hunting down.  Rudi may have one available in the library or you might fine it through interlibrary loan at your local library,  or check the on-line used book vendors
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 26th, 2010 at 7:21pm
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Maybe someone can explain this plastic nut and a pointed screw in detail so I dont have go out and buy a book by Frank Dehaase.  I do know what a free floating barrel is. At least I thought I did.

Maybe it's one of those Clintonian dilemmas,  Maybe it depends on what you consider a free floating barrel?  Undecided

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Reply #7 - Jun 26th, 2010 at 8:16pm
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I'm interested too!  Smiley
  

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Reply #8 - Jun 27th, 2010 at 8:03am
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Many years ago, during the steam airplane era, I had a Model 52 Winchester with 2 screws in the forend, say at 4 and 8 o clock. These screws could be adjusted to touch the barrel. A flashlight bulb and wires and battery and alligator clips were required. Wired up, the screw was turned in until it touched the barrel = the bulb went on, then the second screw, then the screws were turned so many turns. Everything was written down, ex left screw 1 1/2 turns after touching, right screw 2 turns after touching. This was interesting for about an hour, then became a pita. This was a factory gun/screws-it came with a paper describing how to do it. The gun, like so many, is long gone.
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Reply #9 - Jun 27th, 2010 at 10:42am
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I think I may have a singleshot rifle round here somewhere that has a round barrel in a octagon forestock. Or, I mean a octagon forestock on a round barrel. Works fine .

I saw one of those W 52s with the screws in the stock a long time ago. 
The steam airplane era was an interesting one Joe.  Wink Cheesy

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Where in the fuselage did they place the coal bunker?  Huh
  

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I have one of those 52D's with the two screws at the end of the fore end.  I always backed 'em out so the barrel was free-floated.
  

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BP wrote on Jun 27th, 2010 at 12:58pm:

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Where in the fuselage did they place the coal bunker?  Huh


Coal?
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 28th, 2010 at 1:03am
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joeb33050 - interesting as the Besler engine was, you might be interested in the Bourke engine - it has no angular connecting rod motion, instead being horizontally opposed of the scotch yoke design that when assembled in banks forms a radial aircraft engine.

blindeye - I'll agree there are lots of ideas that have been set aside for decades waiting for technology to catch up, or for the public to finally perceive the need. I can't stop laughing about Heinkel!!    Grin Grin


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Reply #14 - Jun 28th, 2010 at 4:20am
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Nuclear! Yes, it makes sense now. Coal is like, just so black and messy.  : Angry

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