Good day Gents,

Although my topic does not directly concern the collection of single shot rifles it is related.

This past weekend I was approached by a young man who produced two very old .45-70 cartridges. He asked if I knew anything about them. All I could give him was my best guestimate.

Here's what he had; the heads were stamped: Rem/ UMC .45-70 Gov't. 405 grain. The cases were much tarnished with age. The bullets were copper jacketed with a lead nose which was much corroded. The bullet was securley crimped to the case it's full length. I shook the cartridge and noted they were loaded with smokeless powder. He told me they came with an old gun that his grandfather had. He was unable to describe the gun. He asked me how old I thought they were.

My best guess would say they were manufactured by Remington/ Union Metallic cartridge Co. approximately between 1920-1930. The lead noses were quite old. If i rubbed my thumb across them too much the tell tale white dust of the detiriorating lead would come off. Honestly these things looked to be 100 years old +.

Anyone know the history of Remington loading jacket smokelss .45-70 Gov't ammo?

Bruce

How do we know they are even factory loads? someone could have made them up in the 50s and just not shot them. 

40 Rod