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rschof
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Ballard breech block
Apr 21st, 2010 at 1:39pm
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What would be the correct approach in converting a #2 Ballard  32 long breech block into a good 22 long rifle assembly?  Also, were the original Ballard 22 rim fires a 6 o'clock or 12 o'clock firing pin, and what would be possible with the #2 block?
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 6:55pm
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Do you have access to John Dutcher's book on Ballards?

Also, consider contacting Steve Durren at Ballard Arms.   

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Re: Ballard breech block
Reply #2 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 10:16pm
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rschof,

The firing pin strike on my Ballard #3 is approximately 12:30.  I wouldn't think there would be much practical difference from the 12:00 position of the rimfire setting of the #2 (if yours is a .32 rim-or-centerfire).  You would have to measure to see whether the .32 rimfire pin is long enough to hit a .22 rim as well.  If not, a dovetailed plate between the breechblock halves with a properly-located hole and a new firing pin is in order.

An equally-important issue would be what to do about the extractor.  The .22 rimfires have a shortened version of the lever-actuated extractor that actuates a linear extractor that slides back and forth in a hole or slot in the barrel parallel with the chamber and bore.  This arrangement allows the .22 rimfire to be chambered without any chance of the cartridge going in ahead of the extractor.  Larger rimfires and centerfires have plenty of overhang for the standard extractor, but using the regular extractor with a .22 will have you holding the lever, pushing the extractor back in and guiding in the cartridge every time you reload.
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 11:27am
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I was planning on doing an original type 2 piece 22 rim fire extractor. Sounds like the original 22 rim fires had a 12 o'clock firing pin but the pin in the right side block, hence the 12:30 firing pin strike. I was hoping to use a 6 o'clock firing pin, but does the original 2 piece extractor location prevent using a 6 o'clock firing pin?  I understand that some of the BR 50 shooters go to great lengths to get a 6 o'clock firing pin, but can this be done in my Ballard with the original 2 piece Ballard extractor location?
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 9:07pm
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i would say that that would be too close.  The center of the extractor is in about the 7:00 position and it extends to 6:30 at least.  You would have the pin strike within a few thousandths of the edge of the extractor, and I doubt the thin web of metal would stay there very long.  Any loss of support around the rim might start the rims bursting, especially that near the pin strike.

Why is the 6:00 position so important?  Is it because they think the ignition must start where the powder is settled nearest the strike?
  
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