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1885 pistol grip DST
Apr 13th, 2010 at 1:38pm
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Got a customer looking for a pistol grip lower tang with double set trigger for an 85 Win. Ballard seems a bit high, anyplace ells to look?
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 3:17pm
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Hello Mr. Taylor,

Shiloh Sharps provide castings from which these parts can be made. Try calling Lucinda and ask for prices. Obviously some work will be required. Alternatively, you could try and contact a Mr. J.D.Steele via the Double Gun Forum, he may have the original parts that you require..

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Reply #2 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 6:10pm
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Shiloh Sharps has high wall part???? Or are you talking trigger castings in general?
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 6:30pm
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John the 85 high wall parts come from the foundry, (see photo) on this site someone said they had complete casting kits for the high wall, sorry Sad can not find the post!

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FOUND IT: try (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
harry_eales page 2 has photo of castings!

Good Luck!
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Reply #4 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 2:02am
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John,

Mike T has beaten me to it. The Boulder River Foundry is a part of the Shiloh Sharps business, they occupy the same building. They have been producing casting kits for Hi Walls for a few years. 

I believe they also supply these castings to the C Sharps Company that occupy other buildings in the same street.

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Reply #5 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 9:53am
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John, 

You might talk to John King.  When I last talked to him a few months ago, he was doing a limited production of these, at least for his own use in custom rifles.

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Reply #6 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 11:37am
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I talked to John King, he is using the same casting from Shiloh Sharps. He is a little backed up like me and said it would be a while to get it done. It's looking more and more like Ballard parts might be the only way to go or try to talk the customer out of going with a DST.
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 20th, 2010 at 9:12pm
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Hi John, I just purchased a real nice double set trigger for a 1874 Sharps from C Sharps arms for my Peabody, in the white assembled was 180.00 I think and all CNC machined, not castings, they make a real nice single set trigger  for the 1885 Win in pistol grip but not a double set. If your customer will go for that you can't beat the quality.
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Reply #8 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 8:55pm
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I ordered all the castings for the DST. Now the fun begins.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 11:06pm
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John,

If you need an original to work from and compare to, I'll send you one of mine.  It's just sitting waiting for a someday project anyway.

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Reply #10 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 9:43am
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Thank you Dave. I'll wait till I get it to see what is involved. I did a DST on a roller a few months back and didn't have any trouble. Just got to lay everything out and see where it goes before drilling holes.
  
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Reply #11 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 12:57pm
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John,
What did the casting cost and what lever is availible?
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830singleshot wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 12:57pm:
John,
What did the casting cost and what lever is availible?
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Scott,

They do two levers for the Browning 1885. The standard lever and the 'Helm' lever. See:- (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

Don't know about the prices, but castings I believe are sold seperately.

Contact Lucinder at Shiloh Sharps for prices.

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Reply #13 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 2:11pm
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It was a little over $100 for the triggers, tang, lever and sear. You can get the whole action for a little over $225. These parts are as cast. While a lot of the work can be done with a good drill press and files a vertical mill makes thing a bunch better. Probably best to have original parts to copy.
I talked with John King this morning and he said the drawing from Buffalo arms didn't help him much.
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 8:42pm
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Got the lower tang fitted to the action. Tang needs to be bent for pistol grip then will fit the new lever next. Had to take about .010" off each side and about .020 off the key way. Then cut the angles for the lever dust cover. There is a little gap with the original lever but the new one will be cut to fit.
  
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