Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2]  Send TopicPrint
Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) Machining an octagon barrel (Read 19509 times)
texasmac
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1914
Location: Central Texas
Joined: Aug 16th, 2004
Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #15 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 6:12pm
Print Post  
Dave,

Thanks for taking the photos and posting them.  That certainly is a clever setup.

Wayne
  

NRA Life (Benefactor & President's Council) Member, TSRA Life Member, NSSF Member, Author & Publisher of the Browning BPCR book
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Chuckster
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2238
Location: Colorado
Joined: May 15th, 2008
Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #16 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 10:36pm
Print Post  
Interesting tool, should work well. Done a couple. One with a shaper. One with a vertical mill using V-blocks, shims, and hold downs. A lot of drawfiling to clean up. Since those, I agree with Irish and buy them if I can.
Chuck
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
GregS
Ex Member


Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #17 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 11:02pm
Print Post  
John, I like the Sharps tulips in your pic. I was going to bring the flats right out to the frame, (not nice) Am putting a .22 WMR on a low-wall and I thought the .600 muzzle would look OK. I will leave about 2in round at the breech now and run the flats into the round. Am going to use a bridgeport with a long table and about a 3/4in end mill and use it as an end mill and not side mill it. Will use a vice in the middle like you do. Thanks for you help
Greg
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
irish66
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 536
Location: newbraunfels
Joined: Apr 7th, 2007
Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #18 - Apr 5th, 2010 at 7:14am
Print Post  
gregs,
guess you want to do a lot of filing. if you do not side mill it you will file it. clamp an angle plate on the opposing side and use a large end mill will water sol. and it will work fine.
irish
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Mike_Hunter
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 384
Joined: Nov 5th, 2008
Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #19 - Apr 5th, 2010 at 4:18pm
Print Post  
SSDave

Thanks for posting pics.   
I make a few oct bbls here in the shop, and have been thinking about building another fixture or improving my setup.  I like the “spring loaded, locking stop” idea.  But my concern/question is, how much movement do you get in the barrel when machining, since the barrel is only held in at two points?   

Thanks

Mike Hunter
Hunter Restorations
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  

Mike Hunter
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
John Taylor
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1711
Location: Lewiston, ID
Joined: Oct 23rd, 2006
Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #20 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 9:19pm
Print Post  
One of the things not showing in the first picture is the "V" clamp on the angle plates.The two flats opposite of each other are cut first to get measurements and taper. Adjustments are made and the two flats are cut again and checked before going to the rest of the flats. I cut every other flat , make the barrel almost square. Then I cut the remaining flats.  I usually don't try to take it all off in one pass on each flat. If it is a button rifled and not properly stress relieved it will come out crooked.
  

John Taylor   Machinist/gunsmith
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
ssdave
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1830
Location: Eastern Oregon
Joined: Apr 16th, 2004
Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #21 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 10:19pm
Print Post  
Mike,

I don't have a good answer for you, as I only cut one entire barrel on it before deciding I needed a better machine with more travel.  Sliding the jig on the table introduces enough error into the cut that it takes some draw filing to clean up the interface between the two cuts.

I used a fly cutter, and the side supports were used to keep the barrel from springing away from the direction of rotation, as well as the bottom ones keeping it from bowing down.  The interrupted cut of a fly cutter generates a lot of vibration, but the pegs stopped that pretty well.  Adding a clamp in the middle like John has would be an improvement.

I have used the jig also to octagon rolling block receivers.  It works well for that, as I have a mandrel I screw all the way through the receiver, mount one end in the collet and the other in the center.  I use a half inch carbide end mill for that operation.  I think it would also work relatively well for fluting barrels if a person was to get into the tacticool business.

I really should pass the jig on to someone else, as I will likely never buy a bigger mill and do any serious machining again.  I went back to working a regular job for a living, and have close to 15 years before I can retire from that, and no guaranteee that I'll be interested in machine work when I have time again.   

I have Paul Shuttleworth octagon barrels for me, or buy them that way.  Same as I have Montana or McGowen turn and polish round barrels for me.  I'd rather do that than clean up the lathe after I get sanding grit all over it.  I send them a cad drawing of the profile I want, they plug it into the CNC and $30 plus $15 postage later it comes back to me perfect.  Plus, I don't have my lathe set up at the moment anyway.  As long as there's great craftsman like John Taylor and John King that will do work in a reasonable time frame, I'm better off keeping my gunsmithing tools confined to a couple of screw drivers and a dremel tool.

dave
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Boblor
Newbie
*
Offline



Posts: 1
Joined: Mar 2nd, 2017
Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #22 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 8:52am
Print Post  
I know this is an old thread, but I sure wish I had that jig to do a tapered Oct barrel project.  The mill table is plenty long enough as it is a big Brown and Sharpe #2 universal with 52 inch table.  Have a choice of using B'port head on the overarm supports or using the 50 taper horizontal milling capability.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
frnkeore
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 7324
Location: Central Point, OR 97502
Joined: Jun 16th, 2010
Re: Machining an octagon barrel
Reply #23 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 12:41pm
Print Post  
Here is a more resent thread on octagon barrels:

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

Frank
  

ASSRA Member #696, ISSA Member #339
Back to top
YIMAIM  
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 
Send TopicPrint