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Mar 12th, 2010 at 2:04pm
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hello, Here is somthing I have been trying to find out for years and have seen absolutly nothing in print. We all of us have heard ad nauseum, of how smith&wesson developed the .22 short in 1857, & brought out their 1st. model revolver for it.  But who was the FIRST maker of a RIFLE to chamber this round. Some will say Win. with their mod. 1873 but this was 16 years later..and this chambering wasn,t available until a few years after anyway.  I believe it was Frank Wesson with his two trigger rifle. Next in line was probably rolling block , either Remington, or Whitney. Also this ctg. probably wasn,t even called a "short" then, not until the "long" came out in 71'.  This seems to me to be of too great a historical import. to be merely ignored.  How about it guy,s any ideas? Undecided
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 1:12pm
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I think you are correct with Frank Wesson being the first, maybe 1859.  His pocket rifles are reported to have appeared about 1860.  The Allan & Wheelock single shot is also said to have appeared about 1860.  I think other makers would have jumped in, but war production contracts were far more lucrative.

Flayderman lists both Remington & Whitney making rolling blocks immediately after the war, with production from about 1867.  Holden, Hopkins & Allen, Forehand & Wadsworth and Granville Henry also produced 22 rimfire rifles before 1873.
  
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Reply #2 - May 11th, 2010 at 8:47pm
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Reply #3 - May 11th, 2010 at 10:34pm
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Who is sudy and what does this post all over the place have to do with anything about single shot rifles? Moderators anywhere??
  
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Reply #4 - May 11th, 2010 at 10:53pm
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There's two other posts...I already sent a Moderator Alert.  Could this be our "cliper" friend getting back at us?   Tongue

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Re: first RIFLE chambered for .22 short (.22-3-29)
Reply #5 - May 16th, 2010 at 9:14pm
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Well, about .22 shorts:

I am not a good authority but when did FLobert make a similar round? Isn't he credited with the first rimfire bullet in the 1840's?? I know it is the bulleted breech cap, shortly followed by the conical breech cap. But when did he (and those who made his style of rifle) lengthen the case??

I may be way off on this. I have some VERY old flobert rounds in an original carton. They are not even really a rimfire at that point. Truly look like a bulleted cap.

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Reply #6 - Jan 19th, 2020 at 3:43pm
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what about Stevens tip up's, they were pretty early in the game
  
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