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Re: Canadian Club Not Listed
Reply #45 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 4:38pm
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buckstic said :
"Now, I can only conclude one of two things.  You have a real  against the ASSRA, or you’re a total idiot"

This is the kind of talk that drives members away, Is it ok to be disrespectful to other members as long as you praise the ASSRA, others reading this kind of crap will never join ASSRA, as far as a club affiliating with ASSRA why would they want to, after reading what buckstic has to say the only thing they could look forward to would to be called an idiot, this is just not right and should not be allowed,  where is a moderator when you need one.

How long do members have to put up with guys like buckstic befour they are banned or put on hold for being disrespectful to other members.
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Re: Canadian Club Not Listed
Reply #46 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 5:21pm
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Respect is "earned" not automatic, here on this forum or any where else.  His attacks on the ASSRA and the people that VOLUNTEER their time, is DAM disrespectful in my views, so I fugued to get down in the mud with him.  My mistake, I apologize for being disrespectful ....  to all the idiots.

I'd be curious to see if in fact HE is a "card carrying" member of the ASSRA or, just a "full time forum-poster" who likes to see his opinions in print.   I don't like people who simply throw trash at others who do so much with little or no thanks....and offer no constructive solutions. 

Forum moderator .. you bet ... next time someone "drops the ball" on their club's membership and then starts to blame everyone but himself .. KICK HIS SORRY COMPLAINING BEHIND OFF THE FORUM.  Tell him to mail a copy of the "receipt" for the money order they claimed they sent. ...... failing that ... adiós! ! ! ! 

  

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Re: Canadian Club Not Listed
Reply #47 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 6:37pm
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Excuse me Mr. Buckstix I never attacked any of the volunteers. I only specified the facts as they occurred. In my discussions about being treated poorly by Directors in the past it was regarding other issues including trying to deal with the need for better representation of Clubs. I have tried to bring forward the issue that the Clubs cannot interact with ASSRA. However the discussion keeps coming back to the straw that broke the camels back which is the payment. It doesn't seem anyone understands the lack of communication has brought us to this situation whether it is due to my behalf or the ASSRA.

Regardless of my position, the other Alberta Schuetzen Guild members also have the same concerns.   

Make arrangements for our Club to properly particpate and we can try to move foreward. 

I keep trying to raise the issue of the need for Clubs to be represented and the need for better communciation- I'm not sure anyone has gotten the message.

Yes I did submit records in 2008 and also copied the submittal to Tommy Mason the Schuetzenmeister to verify the scores. I never received a response back. You can contact Tommy if you think I never sent in the submission. But then I may have done it wrong since I still have never gotten the ASSRA to advise how I was supposed to do it. In 2007 when I tried to find a way to submit them I was told not to bother. Later I understand there was a propsal to start submitting club records but I understand the recommendation was not to accept records that were more than a year old. When I had contacted Directors at that time about Club Records I was just trying to find out the procedure. Instead of being advised of the procedure or that there was no procedure I was attacked as if I was attacking the ASSRA.

I'm sorry I just don't see how I am supposed to communicate with the ASSRA. I have rapidly come to the conclusion members are supposed to remain quite.

What is ASSRA going to do to resolve this issue?
  
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Reply #48 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 6:51pm
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Mr. buckstix,
I believe this all started with a simple question about a club  being affiliated. Maybe the question could have been asked and answered in a nicer way but it was not, please read # 4 and # 6 of the forum rules. 

I agree that the volunteers are doing a job that a lot of others would not want to do, but that does not mean that there gods and don't make mistakes.  I belong to a lot of other clubs and know from experience that some only volunteer because of the power it gives them, not saying that's what we have in this case, just that it does happen. 

There was no reason for anyone to start name calling, all you did was let a lot of us know what kind of person you really are. And it also lets everyone know how tolerant the moderators have become of certain people. Again, my opinion is that this problem should have never gotten this far without some action being taken by one of the moderators. 

I've heard that in the past guys were banned for things like this, name calling, etc.  and a lot of members were lost because of it.  I don't doubt that some members will be lost because of this nonsense, I know for sure that some clubs will be lost, for sure the Canadian club and one that I was trying to get involved. 

I'm the type of guy that always gives others the benefit of the doubt and always willing to help when I can, when a few of the members here needed certain parts I sent them right out, when 40 rod needed some 32 casings I sent them right out.  I'm a big believer in supporting clubs, but if the officials or moderators cant control the "nice guys" on this forum like you I can see that it's not worth being a part of it. 

In fact I'm not sure I want to continue being a member as I don't feel comfortable being part of anything guys like you are a part of. I know no one is perfect, but calling or saying that a fellow member may be an idiot, then the sarcastic so called apology to all the idiots was just un-called for. Thanks.
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Re: Canadian Club Not Listed
Reply #49 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 7:28pm
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I like a few other here would like to see changes but instead of constructive input some and only a few seem to want to get their point across by being both rude and disrespectful.
But with that in mind, I have taken the opportunity to learn something from it and added confusion about another thing. 
And meaning no disrespect to the Association beause unfortunatley not all members represent it with true respect.
The following is what I have learned first:   
1. Why Canada has deported people and now I kinda understand----I spent a good portion of my life with a B.C. address-- is a direct quote and self explanatory.

And now the added confusion:
2. Why does the USA accept these deportees within their boarders possible lack of control.....
I sorry in advance if any take exception to the previous comments. But it appears that the only way some viewers and orators of this forum want to communicate.. And reciprocation should be accepted and understood down in the MUD is maybe the term....for it..
Just my thoughts..
And yes lets move forward constructively..
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I also believe we can move on if all are constructive and open to change to nurture a growing association if we want it to grow..... and not ferment...
  
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Re: Canadian Club Not Listed
Reply #50 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 9:03pm
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"Heap o' stir and no biscuits". You guys take yourselves way too seriously.  Smiley
  

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Re: Canadian Club Not Listed
Reply #51 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 9:31pm
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You all better re read the rules of this Forum and stop CUSSING!!!!
        There is no place on this Forum for This kind of talk!
   

              "NO    CUSSING "


ANY MORE AND I`LL DELETE YOUR POST!!!!
  

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Re: Canadian Club Not Listed
Reply #52 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 10:18pm
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When I was young my mom called me an "idget" I let her get away with it.  My mom.

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