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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2833 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Ideal breech seater? Jan 15^th, 2010 at 6:55pm	Print Post
	Does any one make a copy of the old Ideal breech seater?


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FITZ Oldtimer Offline REGARDS Posts: 917 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #1 - Jan 15^th, 2010 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	Bill Loos, a book seller at many of the larger Gun shows. I have one and it is a very good replication. However it will not seat these way oversize very hard cast bullets used by many today. It is not of robust strength. It was designed for bullets that fit the throat and were cast very soft. HTH, Regards, FITZ.

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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4020 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #2 - Jan 15^th, 2010 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	+! to Brother FITZ's comments on their lack of robustitude and ability to seat large bullets. I even have one that was custom made for me that is scaled up about 3X normal size or more, and I still have a hard time getting enough ooomph on it to seat any but a very soft, close to throat size bullet. My original looks good in the display of loading stuff, but it never gets used with a rifle. Froggie


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2833 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #3 - Jan 15^th, 2010 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	Got a contact for Bill Loos? I'm looking for one to work with a Martini stalking rifle in 8.15 with a tight bore and for another to work with a Low Wall in 25-20 Repeater. I have one of Willis' seaters, but the tang sight on the wall and the marginal grabbing of the seater's lug makes it hard to use. I thought I could push a 25 cal bullet hard enough. It's a pretty small bullet.


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FITZ Oldtimer Offline REGARDS Posts: 917 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #4 - Jan 16^th, 2010 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	Waterman, somewhere in all my crap I have a contact for Bill. Will try to find and post it here. If I don't find it right away I will be able to get information from a freind that talks to Bill regularly but he is away right now. He will be home tuesday or wednesday. I will get it then and post it. HTH Regards, FITZ.

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MerwinBray Oldtimer Offline Aw Gees Posts: 937 Location: Kansas City, KS Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #5 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 1:47am	Print Post
	I have one of Bills Ideal repros and it is a near deads ringer. The knurled ring is different, slightly, as is the wood handle. But only slightly. I use iton a 44.5 and itis in 38-55 cal. I can push some of my bullets and a couple that I have borrowed from others. They are all of the Pope tapered design. I have two or three other bullets that it is ano go on hand seating. So I guess I am seconding what is stated above, with the right bullet and mix, it works. A little too big and forget it! It is a very good repro and he will sell you the plug stem and a guide case in other cartridges at a fair price. Like Fitz, somewhere in my crap I have his card. Can't say I will ever see it again! He is always at the Baltimore gunshow in March. I am sure someone will have the info way before that. Merwin BTW, I plan on gettin the 25-20SS stem from him for my Maynard, but already am prepared for it to be too hard to push the 2 different bullets I have. I can hope though!

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Quarter_Bore Oldtimer Offline Posts: 817 Location: Joined: Dec 16^th, 2005	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #6 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 9:04am	Print Post
	I read somewhere that the small Ideal seaters were made to seat paper patched bullets. That would make sense since they were shot at bore diameter and would be very easy to seat. These seaters were especially useful in seating bullets with Chase style patches. (Once around the bullet and cut square/not diagonal)


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MerwinBray Oldtimer Offline Aw Gees Posts: 937 Location: Kansas City, KS Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #7 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:41am	Print Post
	That would make sense. I have never shot paper patch to speak of. But the tappered bullets I use, Hoch, end up that I am only pushing in the last two bands, for the most part. I think by changing temper of alloy mix the bullet could be made a little bigger or smaller, just a tad. One day I will get a mechanical seater. Merwin

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jonskorepa Ex Member	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #8 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	i purchased one 4 yrs a go and another one latter. they work well with groove sized 25/1 bullets.i think he resides in or near Rochester new york. you may be able too look him up on a phone book from the net.


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AndyZ Full Member Offline Posts: 227 Location: Madison, Ct. Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #9 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	Bill Loos 295 Lake Breeze Park Rochester, NY 14622 585- 544-1027


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FITZ Oldtimer Offline REGARDS Posts: 917 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #10 - Jan 20^th, 2010 at 5:41pm	Print Post
	There you go! Hi Andy, how are you? Hope you are planning on a Happy and prosperous New year. Looking forward to seeing you guy's this summer. Regards and best wishes to all, FITZ.

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AndyZ Full Member Offline Posts: 227 Location: Madison, Ct. Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #11 - Jan 20^th, 2010 at 8:41pm	Print Post
	All good here Fitz. Congratulations on the election......!!!!! Is it true that there are tea chests floating in Boston harbor again?????? See you in April andy


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creedmoormatch Ex Member	Re: Ideal breech seater? Reply #12 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 8:38am	Print Post
	Is Bill still around and making up the breech seater tool ?


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