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32-40 WCF Brass
Apr 18th, 2011 at 4:09pm
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    It is interesting to note that MidwayUSA has totally removed any reference to 32-40 WCF brass from their on-line catalog.

    As many of you know, for a period of at lease two years, the 32-40 brass was listed in the catalog and included a note that "back orders were not being accepted", or something along those lines.  In addition, the catalog listed an "expected shipping date" which was always 30 to 45 days in the future.  When the listed expected shipping dates were reached, Midway simply restated them by adding another 30 to 45 days time.

   How does one interpret the now complete absence of the 32-40 WCF cartridge for the web catalog ?  I don't know.  Is the cartridge completely dead as far as Winchester is concerned ?  Maybe so.  Or, maybe it will simply clear the way for Starline to now make the decision to schedule a run.  Hopefully Starline will come in to fill the void, if in fact, Winchester has relinquished their hold on it.

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Reply #1 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 5:41pm
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Have you tried BACO? They list 32-40 brass for $41 per 50 or $78 for 100. A call to them may solve your supply problem and I suspect that their brass is made by Starline.
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 6:06pm
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I'm confused. Shocked What does Sinclair have to do with BACO?

Anyway, RCBS makes dies to form 32-40 Winchester cases from 30-30 brass ($68) or from 38-55 brass ($167). That gives you options if you can't find cases.
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 7:38pm
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doubs, are you reading Starline to be Sinclair?

There is no doubt, 'seasonal production' is history for 32-40's
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 9:47pm
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doubs, are you reading Starline to be Sinclair?

There is no doubt, 'seasonal production' is history for 32-40's


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Re: 32-40 WCF Brass
Reply #5 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 8:33am
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I don't know about WCF but if you use a little Imperial sizing die wax on that useless short 38-55 brass that Winchester puts out you can make it into proper length (1.120") 32-40 Ballard brass. 

PS As far as I'm concerned it's 32-40 Ballard, Ballard developed it they brought it out first. Winchester just tried to steal it for themselves and thought nobody would notice.

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Reply #6 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 9:21am
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Get a set of forming dies and don't worry about 32/40 or 38/55 availability.  Basic case in 30/30 will be available long after we are all gone.   

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Reply #7 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 3:21pm
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if you use a little Imperial sizing die wax on that useless short 38-55 brass that Winchester puts out you can make it into proper length (1.120") 32-40 Ballard brass. 


    Does the resulting 32-40 case (re-sized from a 38-55) have an appreciable heavier wall thickness, and thereby endure more usage ?

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Reply #8 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 4:11pm
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I don't know about the wall thickness, but have used the same lot of 150 32/40 cases sized from 38/55 for about 15 years with no problems. Most of the use with the same 20 cases used for breech seating.  Another 100 fired with fixed gallery loads and the rest put away in case of problems. 

Get a set of C-H sizer dies 

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Reply #9 - Apr 20th, 2011 at 9:18am
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boats wrote on Apr 19th, 2011 at 9:21am:
Get a set of forming dies and don't worry about 32/40 or 38/55 availability.  Basic case in 30/30 will be available long after we are all gone.  Boats
Cases formed from 30/30 will be short, but cycle and shoot just fine.

How about Rocky Mountain Cartridge cases? Dave Casey will make them with any primer pocket you want and they should last forever, as well.
  

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Reply #10 - Apr 20th, 2011 at 4:51pm
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boats wrote on Apr 19th, 2011 at 4:11pm:
I don't know about the wall thickness, but have used the same lot of 150 32/40 cases sized from 38/55 for about 15 years with no problems. Most of the use with the same 20 cases used for breech seating.  Another 100 fired with fixed gallery loads and the rest put away in case of problems. 

Get a set of C-H sizer dies 

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Boats-I'm curious what is your gallery load for 32-40, I would like to try it
  

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Re: 32-40 WCF Brass
Reply #11 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 7:58am
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Jazzman it's a small bullet out of a Raphine mold.  123 grs in 1/25  .321 bands  .674 o/a   4.5 of Unique

Club I shoot gallery requires sub sonic, threw the Unique out of a fixed rotor pistol meter.  Switched rotors up until it cracked then backed down one rotor. Thats how 4.5 was set as the charge.

Like all small charge of pistol powder loads it's important to mount the rifle same way everytime.   Can't tell you anything about group size as it's never been on a bench rest.  Gallery, 50' ASSRA target same switch barrel CPA It shoots  scores equal to that rifle with good .22 match ammo.

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Reply #12 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 10:54am
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32-40WCF brass   Midway stock #1390153234
Just took it off their wbe site
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 5:05pm
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Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can scare up some bullets and give it a try
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Reply #14 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 8:06pm
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hepburn4590 - I think you'll find you can't order it... Angry
  
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