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Building a Rolling Block ..but what kind?
Dec 12th, 2009 at 11:05pm
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The wife has sort of got on my case about a few project guns that are hanging around and while one is a definite project (P14 Enfield English style medium rifle 375 H&H) the other requires a bit of thought.

The action is an 1867 Remington Contract model with the captive screw system and is in very good condition.

I already have a long range rifle (50-90) and a mid range (50-70, 12.17x44R) and while something in 45-70 would be nice, I know there is a barrel under the tree for my Prohunter.

I thought about a carbine, for when I go out riding or for those quick shots when in the thick stuff.

Caliber is kind of hard, since I don't really want to duplicate something I already have and would like to stay in a caliber suitable for medium game.

So any suggestions or ideas?

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Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:13pm
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Hard to go wrong with 40-65 or one of the big 38's.   Cool

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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:58pm
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In a carbine style Roller I'd be inclined to chamber for the .38-55 myself. I'm not a recoil fan, and that would be a little less recoil for me.
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 1:00pm
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Shaughn:

  I agree with David, the 40-65 is hard to beat. I have built several rifles in 38-50 Remington Hepburn and enjoy shooting them. Had one out to the range yesterday shooting at 500 meters, 6" steel discs were hit regularly. The rifle is set up with a Unertl 6X small game scope. My wife was shooting a Ballard in 40-60 Maynard set up with a MVA scope. Either of these calibers will shoot very well to 500 yards and beyond. Both are capable of taking all but the largest game out to 200 yards. Not as common as the 40-65 and 38-55, both cases are formed from 30-40 Krag or 303 British cases.

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Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 6:22pm
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Would that be the Winchester Version of the 40-65? because if memory suffices Ballard had one as did Maynard and Sharps may have had a version (could be wrong on that one, but with Sharps you never know)

What barrel length would you suggest with the 40-65? Keeping in mind the idea of carbine or at least a friendlier horse mounted barrel length, shooting from horseback is more than likely during deer season, you can really get close to some big deer if they are use to horses and cattle being present Smiley (had to make a big hunter orange vest for the horse though Shocked it still doesn't like the balaclava Grin)

  
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Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 7:15pm
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how about a 40/50sharps straight  cool antique caliber that is simple to make brass for {use 303 brit, or 30/40 craig} and shoot a 370 to 410 grain bullet  art ruggiero
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 8:47pm
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Its my understanding that the bottle neck cases can be a bit more finicky  when working for accuracy, but that might be more of a black powder issue.

I acquired a Italian Sharps short-rifle/cum-carbine this summer that has been cut down and rechambered to 40-50BN .  I have not done much with it yet since it is iron sighted and my eyes do not do real well with irons. But it came with with a batch of PP bullets/5744 loads it seems to shot them fairly well and quite pleasantly  Its quite a fun gun to shoot and I'd feel confident with it as it is now on deer and 100/150 yards.

you might give consideration to the 40-70SS/405 winchester
  

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Reply #7 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 10:13pm
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Want to build a .40 that will shoot?  Want simplicity and economy?  Take a .30-40 US or .303 Brit, blow it out straight, and cut to whatever length/powder charge suits you. DONE DEAL!! Cheesy   

I have an original .40-40 Maynard that I feed that way, but with the modern brass I am using and proper compression to make the FFFg Goex I use happy, I'm actually charging them with about 57 gr behind a 300 gr bullet.  Even out of an original barrel in marginal condition, the results are gratifying.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it!  Wink

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Reply #8 - Dec 20th, 2009 at 9:37am
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I have aquired (2) 50-70 RB actions,with most interior parts.I will surely GO- BPCART.,what cart?I have no barrels;with these actions, so I am researching oddities for too shoot!! Any info,two cents past experiences will be great. Cheesyick Stack
  

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Reply #9 - Dec 20th, 2009 at 11:09am
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My cartridge would be 40-85 Ballard made on 9.3X74 Brass.  I started using 9.3x74 brass in Ballard number 5's back in hte early 70's.  It worked so well I built an Hiwall on the cartridge.  85 grains of Swiss 1.5 and a 360 or 370 grain bullet works well on deer and elk.

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Reply #10 - Dec 20th, 2009 at 6:06pm
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Don't pass up the .40-70 Sharps Straight either. You can have the Roller chambered for the new Hornady .405 Win brass and use that cheap brass already formed, but load it to .40-70 SS loadings. 
No reforming, no expensive brass, and not hard on the shoulder in the old loads. This is what I used for my Remington Hepburn rebarrel.
  

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Reply #11 - Dec 20th, 2009 at 6:19pm
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I built a 40-85 using 9.3x74R brass on a Hepburn for long range and it works well and brass is if not cheap can be found at reasonable cost. I had an original 40-85 Ballard #5 and thought it would be nice to have another 40 in the same cartridge.
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