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Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin (Read 5929 times)

CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Dec 5^th, 2009 at 9:45pm	Print Post
	I need a little education. I know .32-40 Ballard or Winchester is the same but there are vintage Ideal reloading tools I've seen for the .32-40M(arlin). Comments?


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #1 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 8:10am	Print Post
	The cartridge was developed by Marlin Ballard. Winchester just started calling it the 32-40 Winchester and it stuck. AS far as I'm conserned Winchester stole it. 40 Rod


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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #2 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 9:46am	Print Post
	40_rod; It's been about 125 years since Winchester tried to steal this cartridge and I'm still mad-- I never, ever, use the name Winchester when refering to this cartridge--I need help. ledball PS the old leadball


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CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #3 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	The reason I asked about the .32-40 variation is I became interested (translate hooked) into the old relaoding tools. So far I started my collection with a Winchester .32-165 mould and a Win. 1894 reloading tool. I was referred to Cornell Pub. and and I found Cartridge Reloading Tools of the Past by R. H. Chamberlain/Tom Quiqley. Is this a good guidem or can someone recommend another "guide" in the $10-25 range?
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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4202 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #4 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	C-R Don't forget the Gerald Kelver book on reloading tools of the schuetzen era. I see it regularly on Flea-Bay for a bout $16.95. I am certain it contains the instructions for that 1894 tool, f'rinstance. I wish I could lay my hands on my copy!! Froggie


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Online Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2343 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #5 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 3:41pm	Print Post
	CajunReb, I keep preaching this same sermon, but part of the ASSRA membership is that we all have access to the ASSRA archives which are massive, and we get to pick Rudi’s brain on all of these subjects, so by all means call Rudi Prusok and ask him about different cases and ammunition, he can loan you books, tapes, CD’s, he can also send along xerox copies of articles….. Bob


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CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #6 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 5:46pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the input, you too GF, Kelver book is on order.


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stebbinsgr Ex Member	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #7 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 11:10am	Print Post
	Another good place to look for old gun books is (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) as for old catalogs you cannot beat Cornell Publications. Abby at Cornell is a wonderful lady to work with.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18273 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #8 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 12:55pm	Print Post
	Ideal tools marked ".32-40M" were made during the period that Marlin actually owned Ideal. They wanted their tools marked with the M after the caliber for their benefit. It's the exact same tool as the Ideal that's marked .32-40, just done for Marlin. Some of these tools were also marked with the Marlin Firearms Co. rollstamp after Marlin had owned them for a year or two. I've got 8 or10 Marlin marked Ideal tools.

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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4202 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #9 - Dec 13^th, 2009 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	Hey leadhead, the fact is that Marlin developed it, then Winchester made it famous, then folks like Pope and Schoyen perfected it. Then again maybe we ought to call it the .32-40 ASSRA since we preserved it! Froggie


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CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Re: Differences in .32-40 Ballrd/Winchester and Marlin Reply #10 - Dec 14^th, 2009 at 9:25am	Print Post
	Stir the pot, stir the pot... Anyway, the Gerald Kelver book came in and I spent the weekend reading. Wonderful book, thanks for the recommendation


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