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Stevens 414 barrel band configuration.
Nov 2nd, 2009 at 8:27am
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After a long hunt for a reasonably priced 414 Armory, in good condition, I finally found one.  It's in excellent condition with a perfect bore, >95% bluing on the barrel and significant case colors remaining on the action.  The ejector/extractor functions flawlessly and the serial numbers on the barrel, action, extractor, forearm and butt stock all match.  A forum member even helped me with an original action mounted frame sight as it came with a nice Lyman 103.  The only quandry I have is the barrel band and butt stock sling swivels.  While they fit perfectly and look like they could have been issued with the rifle, they are not made from the flat stock that is usually seen.  Additionaly, the barrel band has a horizontal "U" that you would normally associate with a Springfield manufacured rifle and appears very similar to a Krag. I have advertised for a pair of "originals" but before I throw the baby out with the wash I thought I would pose the question to other Stevens enthusiasts, like slumlord.  Has anyone seen such a barrel band on a 414 before?  Since Winchester had used the Springfied Armory (1901 Krag) sight on their high wall Winder Musket, is it possible Stevens might have done the same with the barrel band on the 414?  Thanks guys.  Terry H.  
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Re: Stevens 414 barrel band configuration.
Reply #1 - Nov 2nd, 2009 at 10:40pm
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A couple of pictures would help. I have two in my collection and with pictrues I could better advise you. Neither of mine have a U on the barrel band.
  
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Re: Stevens 414 barrel band configuration.
Reply #2 - Nov 2nd, 2009 at 11:12pm
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I have a cut down krag 1898 and the barrel band does have a "U" on it. Hope this helps. Frank
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 3rd, 2009 at 8:07am
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Thanks for the reply guys.  Here are a couple of pictures of the rifle.  There is a little gap on the inside of the band between the top of the wood line and where the band transitions to the round barrel.  The more I look at it the more I think it is a Krag barrel band.  It works pretty well though.  Terry H.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 3rd, 2009 at 8:09am
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Closer look at the band.
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 3rd, 2009 at 8:19am
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Here's a closer look at the markings on the right side of the band.  From what I can gather from others that have 414s that are missing the front barrel band, these items are as rare as the receiver sight, which is often missing from these rifles.  In my search for a 414 on the internet I viewed several offerings that looked like the barrel band was a little more contoured than what I was used to seeing but the picture was not clear enough to reveal a "U" stamping.  Maybe this is common fix for a missing band.  Thanks for looking.  Terry H.
  
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Re: Stevens 414 barrel band configuration.
Reply #6 - Nov 3rd, 2009 at 9:34am
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My Krag is one of those altered at Benicia Arsenal for DCM sale to NRA members.  It has a barrel band just like that.  But your 414 is a beautiful rifle.  I'm not very much of a purist.  If I had a 414 like that with a Krag barrel band instead of a Stevens stamping, I'd rejoice and think I had an "improved" model.  Is your 414 chambered for Short or Long Rifle?

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Reply #7 - Nov 3rd, 2009 at 5:59pm
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Thanks Waterman.  I am very happy with it.  It had a nice Lyman 103 on it when I bought it, which appears to be a pretty common accutrement based on what I've seen on other 414s.  I was able to get the base for the action mounted receiver sight from another member and fabricated the aperature slide for it.  I put the 103 on my 25-20 Ideal.  It's chambered for .22 Short and shoots pretty well.  It will not chamber a Long Rifle round so I am confident it has not been relined to .22LR.  The Krag band looks very original on the gun and from the aging appears like it was put on there a long time ago.  I would replace it with an original if a ran across one though, just for originality sake.  Thanks for the note.  Terry H.
  
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Re: Stevens 414 barrel band configuration.
Reply #8 - Nov 3rd, 2009 at 11:21pm
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Nice rifle. I have been looking for a barrel band  for a 418 Walnut Hill I am thinking about buying. The Krag could possibly be an option. I was able to find an original sight for one of mine a few years back, but it was not cheap. I have the short and long rifle versions. My short version will chamber a long rifle. There was a lengthly discussion on this subject here. I have several .22 short guns that will chamber a long rifle. Also have a couple that will not. Rate of twist on the rifleing is also different.  Enjoy  your very nice rifle.
  
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Reply #9 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 7:57am
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Thanks for the reply slumlord.  Yes, I followed the .22 Short chamber discussion awhile back.  Very interesting.  I haven't checked the twist yet but I assume it is correct for the Short since I can't chamber a LR.  The Krag barrel band is a perfect fit around the wood of the 414 but leaves some small gaps around the barrel.  It looks very correct unless you get close and notice the gap between the top of barrel channel and the beginning of the band's barrel contour.   Not a perfect fit but it fooled me at first glance.  Of course Krag barrel bands are getting harder to find also.  I'm not sure how the dimensions of the 418 (417?) compare to the 414 in the barrel band area but it might work.  There is one on GB currently.  It will be intersting to see what it sells for.  Thanks again for the note.  Terry H.
  
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Re: Stevens 414 barrel band configuration.
Reply #10 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 8:48pm
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Did it again. Ment 417, not 418.
  
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