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acelungger
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Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut Hill
Jan 28th, 2009 at 4:55pm
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I have located a model 44 Walnut Hill Action missing the DST trigger group. 
First what makes this action a Walnut Hill?
Second, It doesn't have the hammer or DST group , did does have the breech block and firing pin, will I every if I take my time find the parts?
I am sure there has been hundres of people seen this ad and hasn't bought it, so I am wondering why?
If I buy this and find the parts in a year or so, I would like to put a 38 special barrel on it.
What I want is a 44 1/2, but what I want and I end up with are 2 different things!
I would appreicate any and all help and advice.
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Re: Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut
Reply #1 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 7:27pm
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Don't torture yourself.

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Reply #2 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 8:14pm
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dick, are you saying I would never find the parts?
Thanks Greg
  
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Re: Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut
Reply #3 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 8:14pm
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Ace,

I assume you are referring to the action on GUNSAMERICA pictured below.  I admit to not being an expert on Stevens Walnut Hills, although I own a couple 44s myself, but I question as to whether this is a Walnut Hill (417) or not.  The markings are similar to a 417 but the cut out for the receiver sight on the side lead me to believe that it is from a Stevens Ideal 414 Armory.  I do not believe the lower tang was removable on the 414 which further leads me to believe this is someone's remains of an abandoned project, especially from the looks of the fabricated wide lever, which was never issued on a 414. Others, more expert on the Stevens line, please correct me if I'm wrong.  Terry
  

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Reply #4 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 9:37pm
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That is it Terry, 
And I have looked through all my books, and no where in any of the books do they so a Walnut Hill having a removeable lower tang! I think someone was doing just what you said they took a 414 and hacked out the lower tang, and was going to retro fit a DST and a modified Tang.
It still being for sale, made me think that it had to have something wrong with it.
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Re: Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut
Reply #5 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 2:30am
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The original Stevens #49 Walnut Hill did have double set triggers on a detachable lower tang.  If I recall, it was held with two screws on one side and one on the other.  It would have the number 49 on the front of the receiver, normally hidden by the forend.

The later Walnut Hill should have a single adjustable trigger and a rimfire breech block.  The lower tang should be part of the receiver casting.

Thop is right, that receiver is the Armory Model, with either a somewhat battered set trigger lever from another Stevens or a single-trigger one that has been forged or welded to have space for two triggers.  Since the only hole visible in the lower rear of the receiver is the one for the single trigger screw, the logical assumption is that the lower tang has been broken off.  You might ask the seller if this is the case.

  
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Re: Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut
Reply #6 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 9:04am
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Ace,
If you really want a 44 1/2, advertise for one on this forum. They come up for sale several times a year, (often with a stock and relineable barrel) and you might get lucky. If you buy this for just the actiion and have to barrel it up and make a stock you are going to have within a couple hundred dollars of what a real 44 1/2 would cost in it. If you are lucky you may have less in the 44 1/2.
  
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Re: Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut
Reply #7 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 10:34am
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Brent_Ramrod, Thank you for the explainantion on the Walnut Hill Stevens, I had the feeling that if that would of been the real deal it would have been gone before I seen it. With out people like you guys on here, people like me wouldn't know these things.

Quarter_Bore, Your line of thinking is right, I need to just keep looking and hope I run acrossed one that I can afford. I would like to just by a complete action, to put the barrel I want and new wood! I have seen some very nice 44 1/2 but I won't ever have $2000.00 to buy one. And I do like to play with them, kelps pass the time! But I don't think the one avertised is fixable, I am sure it is, but like you said would cost twice what it would cost to buy a complete 44 1/2 action.
Thanks to all for the Help
ACE
  
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Re: Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut
Reply #8 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 9:08pm
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I would recomend placing a WTB add on this forum for a complete rifle. Just bought a very nice, not mint, basic 44 1/2 complete working rifle in .25-21 with factory tang sight and flip up front sight and a good bore for $900 shipped to my door. Rifle was at least as nice, if not better than the sellers description. Also had an offer for one with a Stevens Scope for $2,200. Gun and scope were realy worth it but that was more than I wanted to spend at the time. The scope was probably worth as much as the gun. I recently rebuilt a 44 gun and can tell you that you will spend more than you may think in building up a rifle. All dependa on what YOU realy want to do. There are fair deals out there if you look.
  
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Re: Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut
Reply #9 - Jan 30th, 2009 at 12:27am
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"I recently rebuilt a 44 gun and can tell you that you will spend more than you may think in building up a rifle."

Hey, gunsmiths gotta eat, too!   Grin

David
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Reply #10 - Jan 30th, 2009 at 5:09pm
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Bent Ramrod,  Hello, I have limited knowledge in gunsmithing and  would like you to expand on what you said before about the 417.  You said before that the trigger is "adjustable" and in what way is it.  I have a #1xx and a #3,1xx serial and the #3,1xx have a screw in front of the trigger that I was told here on the forum is a over travel set screw.  Thanks for the answer.  Richard
  
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Re: Looking For info on a Stevens Model 44 Walnut
Reply #11 - Jan 31st, 2009 at 11:49pm
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rkcal22,

It was my understanding that that overtravel screw was the "adjustment."  The 414 and 44 had no adjustment in the trigger whatsoever.
  
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Reply #12 - Feb 1st, 2009 at 8:07pm
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Thanks Bent Ramrod. My 1xx serial number model 417 does not have the screw and my 1xx serial number 418 also does not have the screw for general information.  Richard
  
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