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gungadoug
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NYS Roller Carbine??
Jan 17th, 2009 at 3:59pm
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Looking at what seems to be a New York State Roller Carbine-- maybe!! The carbine itself is nice, wrist cartouche seems correct, forend is correct. Thing that has me puzzled is the rear site. This is not a carbine style flipper, but rather has base only, missing ladder and slider, like a rifle??
Now, while I have located a replacement NYS rear site, is this a cut down rifle? As I say, the forend is not cut down, and the only thing I find off-kilter is the rear site base. I have seen more than 1 carbine for sale that had holes for the rifle site, but a flipper. I don't recall whether the front site is dovetailed, or soldered, obviously need to look at this. HELP!!
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Re: NYS Roller Carbine??
Reply #1 - Jan 17th, 2009 at 11:27pm
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Can't help you exactly, but I would check the muzzle crown, patina, and front sight, because if it's a Bubba job he usually leaves his signature somewhere. 

Another thing you might check is the contour of the barrel. For example, on a Trapdoor the barrel tapers from breech to muzzle on both the carbine and rifle. So, if a rifle barrel is cut down to carbine length it will be much larger at the muzzle than it should, unless turned down on a lathe which involves considerably more effort and skill (see Bubba above). 

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Looking at what seems to be a New York State Roller Carbine-- maybe!! The carbine itself is nice, wrist cartouche seems correct, forend is correct. Thing that has me puzzled is the rear site. This is not a carbine style flipper, but rather has base only, missing ladder and slider, like a rifle??
Now, while I have located a replacement NYS rear site, is this a cut down rifle? As I say, the forend is not cut down, and the only thing I find off-kilter is the rear site base. I have seen more than 1 carbine for sale that had holes for the rifle site, but a flipper. I don't recall whether the front site is dovetailed, or soldered, obviously need to look at this. HELP!!
                Thanks, Doug

  
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Reply #2 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 5:45pm
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OK, So- what should the muzzle dia be???
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 6:17pm
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OK, So- what should the muzzle dia be???


Sorry, I can't do everything for you (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

If I owned a NYS RB carbine I would have told you in my first post. You will need to find somebody who owns one and have them measure for you, or maybe the info is in a book somewhere. 

On a 45-70 Trapdoor it's 1.044" at the breech and .73" at the muzzle, whether a carbine, rifle, or cadet model.

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Re: NYS Roller Carbine??
Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2009 at 11:29am
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Hello Doug,

Did you ever buy that New York State rolling block Carbine?
To answer your question, some of the carbines did have there short base carbine sight replaced  with a long base sight, for target shooting at the Creedmore matchs, held in Long Island.
Here are some photo's showing the two different sights used on the carbines.
 




Have a good day,
Matt


  
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Re: NYS Roller Carbine??
Reply #5 - Mar 21st, 2009 at 11:36am
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The photo didn't show, it workon the test one
  
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Re: NYS Roller Carbine??
Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2009 at 11:38am
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Here is the 2nd photo
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 23rd, 2009 at 3:27pm
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One other very interesting configuration illustrated in the photo is the Standard French Army Assault Mounted bayonets. Smiley
  
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