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singelshotman
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Re:.22 liners
Jan 5th, 2009 at 3:21pm
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I want to reline my daughter's`Favorite myself, Brownells has a drill for liners that costs $90.00.Midway sells 3/8" dia drills for relining for only $50., but it's an odd size, all the regular ones are 5/16". Does anyone know the number for TJ's Liners? They used to make all sorts of custom sizes. I don't want to pay $90 for a tool to be used just once in my life, if you get my meaning, or maybe i'm cheap. Being on SSI tends to do that to do you.
  
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Re: Re:.22 liners
Reply #1 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 5:01pm
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The piloted drills from Brownells sre the right size for the liners they sell. The piloted drill works good with old .22's  as the pilot will follow the existing bore which is nice in the soft steels found in .22's.  It also makes iot easier to line the two holes up when you drill first from one end and then another.    

The TJ's liners for .22 are 3/8 diameter.

The Midway drill looks like it is piloted, but the specifications don't describe it.
  

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Re: Re:.22 liners
Reply #2 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 5:36pm
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What is the caliber of the Favorite you wish to reline? I just relined a 25 Rimfire Favorite to a .22 long rifle with one of the Redman liners  from Brownells. 

If you know how to sharpen a drill bit on a grinder, you can make your own piloted bits. I used a 12" long 5/16" jobber bit from the local hardware store (cost about $12)Smiley. I made a jig to hold the bit perpendicular to the grinding wheel and ground down the first 3/4" of the bit tip to a diameter of about .235". Then I ground the relief and angle on the step. I also piloted a regular length bit to use to start the hole on each end of the barrel before using the long bit. Worked great and is very accurate.

If you do not have the means to grind your own. I'm sure you could take them to a machine shop and get them to grind the pilots for you for a nominal price. 

BTW... if you are reline a .22 cal barrel, you'll need to grind your pilot to about .215".

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Darryl
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Re: Re:.22 liners
Reply #3 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 9:36pm
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T.J.'s  859-635-5560
3652 Neltner Road
Alexandria, KY  41001

I MYHO TJ's liners are the only way to go! I took one look at the Redman liner I ordered from Brownell's and set it aside. I doubt I will ever use it.
Look on ebay for a long "gun drill" they drill a much truer hole.

Norm
  
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Re: Re:.22 liners
Reply #4 - Jan 6th, 2009 at 10:05am
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T.J.'s has the 5/16" liner, just have to order it direct. His liner is .310" ) I have had a few at .312" )so a 5/16 piloted drill will work. Redman liners are a bit bigger so Brownells sells a drill to fit them.  Best way to make a piloted drill is in a lathe with a tool post grinder. Pilot should be .216"- .217". Do not try to use a drill that does not have a pilot, the hole will wander all over the place. If you are taking a 25 cal out to fit a liner then pilot should fit the bore snug, could be .245"- .250". For the 22 liners I use a 19/64" piloted drill and then ream to 5/16". I found that drills don't always drill to the size you want. This gives .0025" clearance, just right for the red loctite to make a permanent install. I  tried to get the liner out of one after the loctite set up, even with lots of heat it would not move.
The 4130 steel used in liners is a little gummy to machine and a higher speed works best for chambering.
  

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