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Page-Lewis single shot model C
Dec 22nd, 2008 at 12:48am
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Hi Guys: Does the page-Lewis 22 single shot ring a bell with anyone?

my Wife and I were at a gun show and we both spotted this little single shot at the same time, It was a bet on the spendy side. The vendor said
they were only made for a few years and the tang sight was O.E. to the rifle. The vendor also said it was made in 1921. 

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Reply #1 - Dec 22nd, 2008 at 8:33am
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Hello Randy,

The Page-Lewis 'Swinging Block' Action is well covered by Frank DeHaas in his book Single Shot Rifles and Actions. 

The action frame is built up on two side plates and spacers riveted together. It was a cheap boys rifle and was made in .22" Long Rifle calibre. 

The company was only in business for some five years (Circa 1920-25)being taken over by the Stevens Arms Co. They made three versions of the swinging block design (Model A Target, Model B Sharpshooter and Model C Olympic, and one bolt action rifle design.

DeHaas mentions having seen one such rifle with the serial number of 8445, however, it is not known if the numbering sequence started at no.1., so guessing how many were made is about as good as it gets. DeHaas considered them well made rifles but their appearance was 20 years too late to make a real impact on the market.

When DeHaas wrote his book in 1969 he gave the going price for such rifles as being between 10 - 30 Dollars, depending on model and condition. Things have changed a lot since then, with prices skyrocketing in some instances up to 20 times the 1969 value.

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Re: Page-Lewis single shot model C
Reply #2 - Dec 22nd, 2008 at 8:38am
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Grant's book Still More Single Shot Rifles has a about a page on the Page Lewis. it also says that there is more in Boys Single Shot Rifles. 
The gist is three models A, B, C or Olimpic model. There was a bolt action D also. Says not many made but production numbers are not known.

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Re: Page-Lewis single shot model C
Reply #3 - Dec 22nd, 2008 at 8:57am
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To add a little to what has been said, the design shared by the A, B, & C rifle actions involved taking two sheet steel side plates and affixing them by rivets and solder to a pair of steel spacers to form a sort of box. The swinging block held most of the action parts, and the stock was a pretty simple 2-piece design with a drawbolt for the butt stock and a small fore end attached with a screw directly to the barrel.  DeHass observed that the home gunsmith could probably make his own in a normal shop, and I would guess that it could probably be scaled up to build a full sized rifle.  It might be a little ugly to the eye of a single shot purist, but compared to an AK-47...

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Reply #4 - Dec 22nd, 2008 at 9:12pm
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          I've read somewhere that the "Lewis" of Page & Lewis was the same family that gave us the Lewis Machinegun.  Leadball
  
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Re: Page-Lewis single shot model C
Reply #5 - Dec 22nd, 2008 at 11:21pm
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The vendor that sold me the gun said that Lewis ,and the Lewis Machine 
gun were of the same person . 

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Reply #6 - Dec 23rd, 2008 at 1:30pm
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Thank you for all the input-I will post the Picture

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Reply #7 - Dec 23rd, 2008 at 1:33pm
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The number on this one is 4625  Ol Deuce
  

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Reply #8 - Dec 23rd, 2008 at 2:04pm
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Randy,

According to DeHaas the tang sight was supplied with the Olympic Model. Yours appears identical to that illustrated in DeHaas's book. This no doubt accounts for the slightly higher price of the Olympic Model.

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Reply #9 - Dec 23rd, 2008 at 2:58pm
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The gun is more complete then I thought ! they say I should have a rubber cup on the tang sight? I have never seen one Does the book talk about one?

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Reply #10 - Dec 23rd, 2008 at 3:43pm
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Hello Randy,
Sadly there is no mention of a rubber cup on the Tang Sight in the DeHaas book, so the answer is very much 'up in the air'. 

I'd scan the four pages relating to this rifle action for you, but sadly my scanner decided last month that it no longer wanted to co-operate with either me or the computer. I'm sure someone in the USA could help you out by scanning the relevant pages and then Emailing them to you.

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Reply #11 - Dec 23rd, 2008 at 4:05pm
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Thanks Harry:  when I get out I am looking for that book! 

Have a Marry X-Mas To you and yours.

Talk to you soon
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Reply #12 - Dec 26th, 2008 at 8:07am
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Randy,

Your Page-Lewis seems to have a lever that is fabricated from 2 pieces of steel probably soldered together. The pictures in the DeHaas book shows a one-piece lever. What few of these I've seen had the fabricated lever. The Page-Lewis is one boy's rifle I've always wanted, but never managed to get. You lucky to have on in such good condition.

From the Kimmel book on Savage/Stevens and the Frank DeHaas book:

Page was a bookkeeper with the J Stevens & Company in 1885. In 1886, the company reorganized under new management as J Stevens Arms & Tool Company with Irving H Page as secretary. After Joshua Stevens retired in 1895, Page bought out his interests in the company and was with the company until he retired 1916. 

Note it's during this time that Harry Pope was at Stevens and their reputation blossomed. If the famous story of Pope throwing a hammer at the "boss" and walking out is true, it probably wasn't thrown at Page. Perhaps it was Charles Fay, son of one of the founders, who was the general superintendent. Anyway, it was Page that was at the helm during the golden age.

Irving Page and George Lewis formed the Page-Lewis Arms Company around 1920 and was sold to Stevens in 1926. It's likely that Lewis actually designed the action, since Page always seemed to be more of a businessman into finance, etc. Also Lewis later went on to Winchester as a gun designer for many years, and then to High Standards before WWII. After the war, he retired briefly and died. 

With many firearms companies located in the Connecticut River valley, most of the important mangers/designers/inventors probably knew each other and floated from company to company over a career. 

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Reply #13 - Dec 26th, 2008 at 8:53am
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I took a look at American Boy's Rifles 1890-1945 by Jim Perkins which has a wealth of info on both Page and Lewis as well as the rifles.

1. None of the pictures, in any of the books I have, show an disk in the tang sights. 
2. Page was the entrepreneur and Lewis did design and patent the action. 

I'll attach a zip file of the patent (1,495,108). If you want the whole thing, go to Googe patents & enter the number.

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Reply #14 - Dec 26th, 2008 at 2:38pm
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I forgot to add that while George Lewis was at Stevens, he also designed an ejector for the 1894 favorite (US Patent 939,142), and the locking system that was used in the underlever crackshot (US Patent 1,059,477). 

I promise this is my last post on Page-Lewis!

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