I don't want to start any wars if this is "bad" subject but I do wonder why something like the CBA format for reporting on matches isn't used by the ASSRA. I for one would be much more interested in the equipment and loads used than in the score or group sizes (preferably both of course).

I do realize this means more paper for the competitors to deal with at the matches, and more effort for the person running the match. It is done regularly at CBA matches and seems to be no great impediment to either the competitors or the persons running the matches.

As someone who competes at the Nationals (where equipment lists are on the registration form) and several other ASSRA sanctioned matches including the one I put on at Chinquapin (that also has the list on registration form) I find that many shooters don't want to be bothered by filling out all that info (I have to make sure I even get name and mailing address) and have been told that some shooters intentionally put misleading info so as to "protect their secrets."  While the latter is heresay, the former is something I have actually observed and been guilty of (rarely) myself.  I would say that the best place for getting that information is fora like this one, at a more relaxed pace and "away from the heat of battle."  This is just my humble opinion, and you're entitled to yours as well, but the subject has come up more times that one and this seems to be about as far as it gets. 

Froggie

PS  Harlow Parkenfarker was "born" as a result of one person's disgust at the lack of real effort by shooters and interest by the average ASSRA News reader with regard to the equipment list.  But that, as they say, is another story! 

Please start the story with, ( Once Apon A Time )  Thanks.


                                                      Joe.

Joe,  I'll have to get permission from the original perpetrator before I expose very much more guilt than I already have... but it was apparently done as a sort of inside joke;  a spur of the moment thing to express whatever emotion (frustration, etc.) about the job of posting the incomplete hash of information which even then (over 20 years ago) was being clamoured for by a noisy few and patently ignored by the vast majority.    By way of outlining what happened, a set of spurious scores and loading data was inserted into the middle of a "legitimate" results set and being attributed to the now-infamous Harlow Parkenfarker.  Once he sprung full grown onto the pages of the ASSRA News, his exploits and misadventures began to take on a life of their own.  That's my (incomplete) story and I'm sticking to it! 

Green Frog

PS  Irish66, is the clubhouse @ New Braunfels open to interested guests at any regular times, such as match dates, etc.?  How does one get to investigate some of that neat history?  GF

In the past year, I have penned two such summaries that were published in past issues of the Journal, the most recent being the rimfire equipment and the older the centerfire equipment. The rimfire list was based on me handing out forms to each competitor and getting back about 2/3 of those I handed out. The centerfire info was based on collecting registration forms from the entire season prior and working through the equipment which included barrel and mould makers, powder, scopes, actions, bullet weight and some other data. Now this is only on stuff used at Etna Green, but I am sure the Editor would publish summaries from other parts of the country. It would be an interesting comparison to see how equipment changes based on the location of the shoots.