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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Online Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2063 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Pope barrels Reply #30 - Jun 5^th, 2007 at 12:42am	Print Post
	I found this paragraph in “The Breech-Loading Single Shot Match Rifle” by Ned Roberts and Ken Waters. “The Pope Ballard that I own is marked on the bottom flat of the half octagon barrel (under the forend) “20/14.25,” indicating a gain-twist starting as 1 turn in 20” at the breech and increasing in pitch to one turn in 14¼” at the muzzle. The name “H. M. Pope” appearing on the top flat is repeated on the bottom flat, together with the date on which Pope made this particular barrel, “5/9/09.” Ken Waters” Bob


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marlinguy Ex Member Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater!	Re: Pope barrels Reply #31 - Jun 10^th, 2007 at 5:13pm	Print Post
	Well a friend of mine ended up getting the Pope barreled Ballard! Great story that came with it too. The uncle of the present owner's husband got it during WWII scrap drive. He drove by a home and saw it sitting at the curb on top of a pile of scrap metal, destined for meltdown! He stopped and asked if he could take the gun and in return bring back an equal amount of steel in trade. The woman who lived at the home said that would be fine. Thus a gorgeous old Pope Ballard was saved from being melted down!-Vall

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4077 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Pope barrels Reply #32 - Jun 13^th, 2007 at 12:53pm	Print Post
	Ron Smith figured out Pope's system for cut rifling gain twist barrels and has been using a modified version of it since the 1970s. It would be very interesting to determine how many of the shooters that have shot perfect 250s have used RKS gain twist barrels. I believe all of the 250s shot by Ron Smith, Colleen Molendyk, Dick Spencer, Tommy Mason, Lowell Hamilton and Dave Patterson to mention just a few were all shot with RKS barrels. I believe they were all gain twist barrels too. So who says they won't shoot.


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J.D.Steele Ex Member	Re: Pope barrels Reply #33 - Jun 13^th, 2007 at 3:57pm	Print Post
	Schuetzendave, some of us who have owned, shot or witnessed the performance of RKS gain-twist bbls eventually figured out that the 'gain-twist won't shoot' comment was written in jest by The Global Moderator, just to see if any of us were paying attention (or indeed knew anything at all about what we were writing of..............). Regards, Joe


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Pope barrels Reply #34 - Jun 14^th, 2007 at 8:26am	Print Post
	Joe, Dave, All I guess that it has escaped the attention of most that Jim shot both of his Roland breaking groups with a Smith gain twist barrel on a Miller action. 40 Rod


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J.D.Steele Ex Member	Re: Pope barrels Reply #35 - Jun 14^th, 2007 at 6:17pm	Print Post
	No, I didn't know that, congratulations! All I knew was that I've owned an RKS gain-twist bbl and therefore thought the statement just HAD to be a joke of some sort. That's why I said I was gonna hide & watch, but nobody bit. Regards, Joe


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Brent Ex Member	Re: Pope barrels Reply #36 - Jun 14^th, 2007 at 7:23pm	Print Post
	Quote: . That's why I said I was gonna hide & watch, but nobody bit. Most of us try to avoid responding to trolling... Brent


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J.D.Steele Ex Member	Re: Pope barrels Reply #37 - Jun 14^th, 2007 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	Now, surely you're not suggesting that The Global Moderator would actually troll, are you? BG Regards, Joe


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Jim_Borton Global Moderator Offline Posts: 449 Location: Tipp City Joined: Apr 9^th, 2004	Re: Pope barrels Reply #38 - Jun 15^th, 2007 at 6:54pm	Print Post
	Who me "TROLL"

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J.D.Steele Ex Member	Re: Pope barrels Reply #39 - Jun 15^th, 2007 at 7:00pm	Print Post
	Only on days that end in 'Y', right?


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Jim_Borton Global Moderator Offline Posts: 449 Location: Tipp City Joined: Apr 9^th, 2004	Re: Pope barrels Reply #40 - Jun 15^th, 2007 at 9:28pm	Print Post
	LOL

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Pope barrels Reply #41 - Oct 4^th, 2007 at 11:58pm	Print Post
	Thanks Dave ... I remember that thread! Don't have the book in front of me now, but I believe there is more information about the topic in "The Story of Pope's Barrels" Book by Ray M. Smith Have always wondered ... who has barrel 154 in 33-40: Harry's personal rifle re-cut from 32-40


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